London Public Meeting

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Battlescarred
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Jun 19 2007 12:50
London Public Meeting

Lost in the Supermarket- Work, Consume, Die. Consumerism and its alternatives. Public Meeting convened by Anarchist Federation (London)7pm June 28th Marchmont Community Centre, Marchmont Street, London WC1 . Nearest tube-Russell Square

Battlescarred
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Jun 19 2007 13:17

CORRECTION:
This should read Thursday July 5th as June 28th clashes with public meeting with MOVE people from USA

riverrun
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Jun 19 2007 18:38

Where is the MOVE meeting?

Battlescarred
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Jun 20 2007 16:36

At Ramparts, off the Commercial Road in Tower Hamlets

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Jul 5 2007 12:52

Bump!

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Jul 6 2007 11:21

A well attended meeting, good presentation and good discussion. We'll start another round of public meetings in September. watch this space!!

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Jul 7 2007 17:13

I attended the meeting and have written up some thoughts.
http://voline.org/20070706.php
I am not affiliated to AF (class harmony not struggle).
This is honestly not intended as advertising for my three post web site. (Was that three post or three bit - ed)
Voline.

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Jul 7 2007 17:22

Welcome to the forums voline.
Out of interest, why do you write in the third person on your site?

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Jul 7 2007 21:19
pingtiao wrote:
Welcome to the forums voline.
Out of interest, why do you write in the third person on your site?

It is for the same reason that we say we rather than I.
Solipsism.
We are on our own.

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Jul 7 2007 22:40

It was very good talk, followed by a decent discussion.

Dan.

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Jul 17 2007 19:37
pingtiao wrote:
Out of interest, why do you write in the third person on your site?

Crikey.

Voline, i appreciate the write up but i'm finding it pretty difficult to read past the second paragraph with this weird approach.

Tacks finds it very off-putting. Tacks may not read it at all.

Tacks also has some serious misgivings about the idea of class harmony as tacks has understood the theory of classes to mean an economic system that inevitably pits two groups of people, roughly workers and employers, against each other in a material battle for goods and liberty. tacks doesn't think its about hating anybody, but assessing how best to go about resolving the problems of the world based on this central understanding. Tacks sees a phrase like 'class harmony' as oxymoronic, like 'cold fire' or 'sexy trot'.

tacks is bored of this game now.

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Jul 17 2007 19:39
riverrun wrote:
Where is the MOVE meeting?

In crary conference centre, nutter city, mad moon, loony universe.

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Jul 17 2007 19:43

from: http://voline.org/20070610.php

'voline' wrote:
Voline spoke to a youngish marxist handing out party literature. The discussion was only short but an exchange of ideas was hampered by one side's theoretical and dogmatic stance. The marxist would not grasp the difference between the working class and the working majority. The majority of adults in London work. Only a minority of adults in London would describe themselves as working class. Pressed on the continuation of government post-revolution, the marxist stated that there would be worker's councils who might elect representatives if they needed to. No government! The marxist was an anarchist distributing the wrong literature.

no that works as a marxist argument, just not as a leninist one, imo smile

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Jul 17 2007 19:48

PS i debate that a minority would call themselves working class, for starters you'd have to translate the term into 1000+ languages.

Its not really the name of the game for me whether people call themselves 'working class' as this is a very contested term - people who understand 'working class' to mean wage worker with no employer power over another is most DEFINITELY in the minority, limited to socialists only.

Its not really a problem though.

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Jul 18 2007 12:41

4 messages in a row? With himself Tacks debates, yes, LB thinks smile http://www.yodaspeak.co.uk/index.php