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nastyned
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Jun 13 2005 17:28

Nah, on a demo Laz asked half heartedly asked how you join and got a half hearted reponse.

Lazlo_Woodbine
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Jun 13 2005 17:56

No, I was told to apply via the website, and have heard nothing. Did I miss something? I've started to brush up in anticipation of the ICC-style entrance test and everything...

knightrose
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Jun 13 2005 20:39
Lazlo_Woodbine wrote:
No, I was told to apply via the website, and have heard nothing. Did I miss something? I've started to brush up in anticipation of the ICC-style entrance test and everything...

well, we're not perfect. If you really want to join it's easy enough. Just send a wad of fivers smile - where do you live? Up here in the frozen north it's just done by meeting people. If you're a southern softie it may be different (or am I insultying an ex-Manc). You could always send me an email and I'll get it sorted (if you are still interested) - manchester@af-north.org

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pingtiao
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Jun 13 2005 20:55

or me- I can sort it if you are up in london at all Laz.

Lazlo_Woodbine
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Jun 14 2005 08:48

I'm closer to ping, so I'll contact him, cheers Knighrose

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Jun 23 2005 13:18
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Should we, as a federation, have a press-policy for either federation-wide communication, or to restrict the interactions of members on an individual basis?

I think the Guardian article written by two Dissent organisers shows that the media are not always there to distort our opinions and maintain a ruling class agenda.

I think that it's simply a matter of common sense. We cannot assert that all journolists are out to get us, because that just simply isn't true. It should be a question of taking each individual case on its own merits instead of dismissing people or media suggestions out right. I think we should be wary, but not consumned by cynicism.

Mike Harman
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Jun 23 2005 15:11

Do you have a link for that Grauniad article?

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Jun 23 2005 15:57

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1509192,00.html

knightrose
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Jun 23 2005 16:18

nobody is saying thast they always distort.

Dumfries
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Jun 24 2005 10:32
knightrose wrote:
nobody is saying thast they always distort.

Well, then, why the fear?

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Rob Ray
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Jun 24 2005 10:36

Lack of media training/experience I suspect. It's very easy to make a dick of yourself if you aren't prepared.

Dumfries
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Jun 24 2005 10:38
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Lack of media training/experience I suspect. It's very easy to make a dick of yourself if you aren't prepared.

I think the boy scouts were onto something... wink

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Jul 28 2005 22:02
Lazlo_Woodbine wrote:
No, I was told to apply via the website, and have heard nothing. Did I miss something? I've started to brush up in anticipation of the ICC-style entrance test and everything...

I applied via the website at least several weeks ago now, and have yet to hear anything back from the AF.

I'm also looking to meet any Anarchists from the Devon area, especially Plymouth, so we can get cracking on starting up a group.

I appreciate you folk are probably very busy, but I'd like to hear something soon if possible.

gawkrodger
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Jul 28 2005 22:21

http://www.libcom.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5998

just pm'ed you pilgrim!

kalabine
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Jul 29 2005 08:56

i believe an AF member has just moved to devon wink

sorry to butt in as a non member - but i'm interested in this subject at the mo' - Haringey Solidarity Group doesnt have a press policy one way or the other, but we have, both as HSG and our members involved in other campaigns (residents associations, ID cards, action to halt advertising, fairford coach action etc) have dealt with the local newspapers, have in particular found the local free rags very amenable, and essentially so desperate for stories anything they have got wrong has been a genuine mistake - and nothing that made people look bad - we could get stuff in every week, in fact residents and tenents associations do get in the paper every week - and so far have always had a sympathetic/neutral hearing

having said that, afaik we didnt get anything in about the G8 - and i think certain things tis best not to talk to the media about - i don't think the leaders of dissent should have spoken to the guardian for example

i would recomend that as a fed, you have a policy whereby no one can speak to the press as a member of AF unless delegated, but if they do as an individual then it is on a case by case basis

Lazlo_Woodbine
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Jul 29 2005 10:42
kalabine wrote:
i think certain things tis best not to talk to the media about - i don't think the leaders of dissent should have spoken to the guardian for example

i would recomend that as a fed, you have a policy whereby no one can speak to the press as a member of AF unless delegated, but if they do as an individual then it is on a case by case basis

The people who write the Guardian article did not do so as 'leaders' of Dissent!, they did so on the very individual basis that you're suggesting. A problem with representation of social movements in the media -- however well prepared you are -- is that it will always make certain people out to be the 'leaders'. Even if the article says otherwise, those who engage with the media will still tend to find their statements becoming more prominent and influential.

IMO a delegated strategy avoids this, but is also likely to lead to a very basic lower common denominator profile, without the flair and wit that appeared in the Guardian articles. Of course, the network that I've been organising for years is what allowed certain media-savvy people to display their flair and wit, and I had no say over it at all..

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Jul 29 2005 14:03
kalabine wrote:
i believe an AF member has just moved to devon wink

they have? If it's an AFer who lives in Haringey and was doing a masters then he lives in sommerset

kalabine
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Jul 29 2005 16:30
gawkrodger wrote:
kalabine wrote:
i believe an AF member has just moved to devon wink

they have? If it's an AFer who lives in Haringey and was doing a masters then he lives in sommerset

its all yokel land to me