Who are the United British Alliance?

The reason they were having their religious services in the street was because the charity that owned the mosque had thrown them out, due to the mentalist views of many at the mosque.

Having the services in the street required the police to block the road off for them, a service I doubt many demonstrators could expect on a weekly basis.

The demonstrations against the mosque came later, and given the views expressed there, were hardly a surprise.

I don't like religion, you might find that it is a bit of a core belief for class struggle anarchists.

Marsh has written stuff on UCKG christian cult in hackney in the past. Anyway the attack on "Islam" isn't only from the outside as it were, there is also a big generational divide in places like whitechapel between the mosque and younger asian kids who are growing up in the area. If we are for real class struggle then the struggle against religion, any religion should be paramount. Put it this way, who is exploiting "muslim" workers in Whitechapel? No doubt other muslims.

Finally I really doubt that Islam, as a religion, is under attack by the state or even fascists. What's been targetted is potential insurrectionists that wanna undermine the british state. Northen Ireland anyone?

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Aye, but you forgot the part about us having weapons of mass destruction.

Yes. Although I can vouch for the first two accusations being entirely true of mainstream Islamic teachings (of which, I hope I'd made it obvious that I'm not an adherent), I'd be interested to know where the "blacks are subhuman" and violently defending property came from?

I have yet to witness these attitudes in any Muslim I've ever met, including the ignorant authoritarian bigots.

Can't remember wher I read it (always a bad sign ) but seem to remember that the strict words of the prophet suggested blacks were the world's natural slaves, and it's fair to say that cutting off offender's hands counts as violent defence of property. It's been a while since I've been reading this stuff though and as I can't remember where I read it it's entirely possible they're simply Christian hyperbole.

1. Al Qaeda is not a person, its a group

2. My enemy's enemy is my friend is pretty poor politics. Lots of fascists hate the USA, would we support them if they started bombing the USA?

3. Large numbers of working class people, from air hostesses to firemen and office workers were killed on September 11th. Anybody who thinks that is good, is a dickhead.

1. Al Qaeda is not a person, its a group

2. My enemy's enemy is my friend is pretty poor politics. Lots of fascists hate the USA, would we support them if they started bombing the USA?

3. Large numbers of working class people, from air hostesses to firemen and office workers were killed on September 11th.

WHOS SAYING MY ENEMYS enemys friend blah blah,im not im asking why you are constatly attacking islam on this web site?lots of fascists hate the USA,again so what and i was waiting for the westernised bollox alot of WClass died on sept 11th,alot of wc died in afganastan,again america just wipes out people and the attacks on america where not really concentred in wc areas where they...what if a bomb blew up parliment would you say alot of wc people where working there at the time...

Anybody who thinks that is good, is a dickhead.

try telling that to the many millions who was opressed by america,i wasnt the only one celebrating.

Are you actually being serious andy? Are you seriously saying we shouldn't knock Islamic bigotry because it also occurs elsewhere?

What im saying is why on an anti fascist site are people putting threads on slagging of other cultures and more on the lines of mosques i to agree that islam is fucked up but come on,on past threads theres is constant slagging of alot of the above.

The only thing wrong with the word Islamo-fascists to describe groups like Al-Qaeda, Hizb ub Takhir or Al Muhijiroun is that the term is used by Richard Littlejohn.

These people are fascists, and we undermine the anti-fascist, multi-racial cause by saying anything else.

No-one I know bothers taking on Muslims, you're right there's already plenty of ordinance laid out against them. Having said that, if the subject comes up there is plenty to critique, which is what's being done here and there's no way I'm going to start feeling sorry enough for religious dogmatics, of any hue that Icensor my language. I'd say the same (and have done) about Christian fundamentalists, who are more of a problem because they have control in the US.