Banksy
Dec 23 2005 16:51
Well I was in Borders a couple of days ago, and Banksy appears to be top of the bestsellers list, which I think is really cool. What do other people think about it? I think it's a shame his work has become such a commodity, but it is fucking good so it was something to expect really!
Dec 23 2005 16:58
#2
Only a tenner from Amazon...
Dec 23 2005 18:00
#3
Yeah I mean it's no surprise it's big cos he is fucking good. Still I bet Arofish is a bit pissed off he stole his thunder with the whole graffiti on the Palestine wall though...
Dec 23 2005 19:31
#4
Banksy's stuff doesn't really work out of context IMO. And charging people (20 bastard quid) to look at pretty pictures of it is intolerable, banksy thou hast sold out.
Dec 23 2005 19:56
#5
So you don't think he should be able to make any money from having a skill?
Using that logic you're against all forms of professional art, plumbers, carpenters. musicians etc.?
I do think 20 quid is a lot though, but I doubt he set the price...
Dec 24 2005 00:30
#6
Have you seen the letter from a "Hackney resident" in his latest book, where some geezer is complaining about gentrification, and blaming Banksy for making an area trendy with his art work?
Pure class! (literally!)
Dec 24 2005 10:38
#7
I don't really think you can blame Banksy for gentrification. I mean, the Nathan Barley types are hardly likely to get him, and I doubt he considers them to be on a level with him.
I went to a Banksy exhibition in Notting Hill a couple of months ago which involved looking at classic Turner-esque landscape paintings with ugly urban additions (ie shopping trolleys in the nice river, a fat England fan etc) while live rats scurried around your feet.
Dec 24 2005 10:40
#8
jimmer wrote:
So you don't think he should be able to make any money from having a skill?
I think it's about more than that though, there's an integrity issue too. I'm not saying that Banksy's a sellout but to look at things in such crude terms would be over-simplistic.
Dec 24 2005 11:12
#9
Are people taking the piss, or do you genuinly consider his shit to be good?
Dec 24 2005 18:25
#10
Jack wrote:
Are people taking the piss, or do you genuinly consider his shit to be good?
You're an idiot. He's an amazing artist. By far the best British artist right now.
Dec 24 2005 18:34
#11
John. wrote:
You're an idiot. He's an amazing artist. By far the best British artist right now.
<spits whisky over monitor>
Come on! he's an ok grafitti artist, with the audacity providing much of the impact, and a witty line in gimmicks. Nothing more.
Dec 24 2005 18:36
#12
Lazlo_Woodbine wrote:
John. wrote:
You're an idiot. He's an amazing artist. By far the best British artist right now.<spits whisky over monitor>
Come on! he's an ok grafitti artist, with the audacity providing much of the impact, and a witty line in gimmicks. Nothing more.
So what the guy who made a shed into a boat's better?
Though I spose I said that for impact really. I'm no art critic, I don't "get" most of it really, so nyeh. He's probably my favourite British artist anyway, though don't like him as much as I used to.
Dec 24 2005 18:39
#13
John. wrote:
So what the guy who made a shed into a boat's better?
hmmm... there is a lot of crap around... but there must be someone better in these islands...
Dec 24 2005 19:13
#14
banksy's shit has long been passe, a parody of detournement.
i find it dull as fuck.
Dec 24 2005 19:21
#15
Lazlo_Woodbine wrote:
there must be someone better in these islands...
... ?
Dec 24 2005 19:24
#16
Dec 24 2005 19:44
#17
Lazlo_Woodbine wrote:
Nyeh, that just looks like a million other paintings that aren't photorealistic, so the technique's not that good, and is not particularly impressionist or abstract. I just don't see the point of it really, or other paintings like that. Trite, sub-Magrittean nonsense. 
Next!
Dec 24 2005 20:00
#18
John. wrote:
Lazlo_Woodbine wrote:
Nyeh, that just looks like a million other paintings that aren't photorealistic, so the technique's not that good, and is not particularly impressionist or abstract. I just don't see the point of it really, or other paintings like that. Trite, sub-Magrittean nonsense.
Next!
come on john banksy's graffiti is now a fucking cliche, a parody of a detournement. It has been completelty detourned itself. Of course we could have forgiven him that if his work had anything close to a subversive edge, but because of it's straight one dimensionalism and lack of subtlety or self awareness it is unable to maintain even a smirk of subversiveness.
Dec 24 2005 20:02
#19
John. wrote:
Nyeh, that just looks like a million other paintings that aren't photorealistic, so the technique's not that good, and is not particularly impressionist or abstract. I just don't see the point of it really, or other paintings like that. Trite, sub-Magrittean nonsense.
i can't beleive you bothered to critique that athena poster 
Dec 24 2005 21:04
#20
Dec 24 2005 21:17
#21
Lazlo_Woodbine wrote:
John. wrote:
Nyeh, that just looks like a million other paintings that aren't photorealistic, so the technique's not that good, and is not particularly impressionist or abstract. I just don't see the point of it really, or other paintings like that. Trite, sub-Magrittean nonsense.i can't beleive you bothered to critique that athena poster
Yeah yeah "there are better targets" right? 
Jack, the fact that you like The Pogues shows you have no taste in any kind of art whatsoever.
Dec 24 2005 21:18
#22
John. wrote:
Yeah yeah "there are better targets" right?
Jack, the fact that you like The Pogues shows you have no taste in any kind of art whatsoever.
1. You are gay.
2. You are wrong.
3. I refuse to accept you think Banksy is better than Tracy Emin.
4. You are gay.
Dec 24 2005 21:23
#23
Jack wrote:
1. You are gay.2. You are wrong.
3. I refuse to accept you think Banksy is better than Tracy Emin.
4. You are gay.
Tracy Emin is shit. And it's not fair you're allowed to be homophobic just cos you're a homosexual.
Dec 24 2005 21:26
#24
Tracy Emin is shite as is Banksy.
Now this is subversive and provocative.
Dec 24 2005 21:41
#25
John. wrote:
Tracy Emin is shit. And it's not fair you're allowed to be homophobic just cos you're a homosexual.
Belfast does it, and he doesn't even have that excuse. 
Dec 24 2005 21:52
#26
Jack wrote:
John. wrote:
Tracy Emin is shit. And it's not fair you're allowed to be homophobic just cos you're a homosexual.
Belfast does it, and he doesn't even have that excuse.
yeah but it's part of irish culture to be homophobic so don't even think about oppressing me with your anglo phallic centric instrumental homogenising bastard child of the enlightenment speciest master discourse!
Dec 30 2005 11:10
#27
John. wrote:
Jack wrote:
1. You are gay.2. You are wrong.
3. I refuse to accept you think Banksy is better than Tracy Emin.
4. You are gay.
Tracy Emin is shit. And it's not fair you're allowed to be homophobic just cos you're a homosexual.
Yes but he is a homosexual who secretly fancies Tracy Emin.
Mind you, if i fancied Tracy Emin I would probably become a homosexual.
Dec 30 2005 14:01
#28
She's well fit you cock!
Dec 30 2005 14:25
#29
Jack wrote:
She's well fit you cock!
fuck Jack your one sick fuck!
Dec 30 2005 14:27
#30
I think they're made for each other.
Over priced nonsens, IMO. Wonder what he'll do with the money. Hope he bungs some to politicals and/or prisoners.