Raoul Vaneigem in the Idler
Jul 19 2005 14:20
Hello my friends
There’s an interview with Raoul Vaneigem in the current edition of the Idler (no 35). http://www.idler.co.uk/ , here’s some snippets for you all…
Raoul wrote:
The old idea of a general strike that would overthrow capitalism and lead to a revolution has never been proposed with either conviction or pertinence.
Raoul wrote:
The point is, strikes were never revolutionary at a period where they could have been.
Raoul wrote:
What I recommend are strikes demanding gratuity.
Raoul wrote:
Have the trains, the metros, the buses running freely and you will provoke healthy emulation everywhere, you will awaken the creativity of each person.
I’m with our man Raoul here.
Love
Chris
Jul 19 2005 16:41
#2
Maybe he's talkig about like when in France the train workers go on strike and it's free to get on? What's 'gratuity'? And how would call centre workers do this? 
Jul 19 2005 16:59
#3
maybe like free call out's from plumbers or annual gas check's
i'll be shortly walking out of my workplace and shouting gratuities
Jul 19 2005 17:00
#4
oisleep wrote:
didn't that mussloni get the trains running on time
Only one apparently, the one he travelled into rome on when he took power in italy.
Jul 19 2005 17:14
#5
bastard, here's me thinking the cunt marched all the way!
Jul 20 2005 11:50
#6
Hi
I'm thinking that they let people on the buses for nothing etc.
Imagine a benifits-workers strike which paid everyone what they needed.
As for call centre workers, they could over-serve their customers by crediting their accounts or insisting on carrying out actions for their clients complete delight and satisfaction, or something.
It's the Firefighters I worry about, perhaps they could only put out fires in certain postcodes. Maybe they could use water on working class homes and petrol on the bourge. That's meant to be funny by the way.
Lots of love
Chris
Jul 20 2005 12:25
#7
What they did on a bus strike in East Yorks (where I grew up) a few years back is that on day 1 they had a traditional "no buses running" type strike, and on day 2 they announced that they would be running a full bus service & not taking any fares to thank the public for their support. Worked a treat, 'cause they did it during the summer & you could get to the seaside for nowt.
Jul 20 2005 12:33
#8
Lazy Riser wrote:
HiI'm thinking that they let people on the buses for nothing etc.
Imagine a benifits-workers strike which paid everyone what they needed.
As for call centre workers, they could over-serve their customers by crediting their accounts or insisting on carrying out actions for their clients complete delight and satisfaction, or something.
It's the Firefighters I worry about, perhaps they could only put out fires in certain postcodes. Maybe they could use water on working class homes and petrol on the bourge. That's meant to be funny by the way.
Lots of love
Chris
what if you do a job that's not socially useful in the first place 
should i just carry on doing nothing as usual?
Jul 20 2005 12:38
#9
oisleep wrote:
should i just carry on doing nothing as usual?
Works for me. 8) 
Jul 20 2005 13:45
#10
Hi
How do you know when a job is not socially useful?
If a job isn't useful to somebody, then there's no point in going on strike at all.
Love
Chris
Jul 20 2005 13:47
#11
Hi
Actually, that's not true. You may just fancy striking for the sake of it, in which case it is useful because you get to do what you want.
Cheers
Chris
Jul 20 2005 13:47
#12
That's better.
Jul 20 2005 14:01
#13
Hi button
What are you having for tea tonight? thaw knows some people who are eating leafs.
Love
Chris
Jul 20 2005 14:05
#14
I think stir-fried tofu with garlic, chili, salt & pepper. Will have to ask the Mrs
Jul 20 2005 14:33
#15
Hi
That sounds wicked. Last night I had pan fried chicken style quorn pieces (a little salt in the oil makes it good and crispy) with brown rice and cabbage.
It was really nice.
If I wanted to give up diary, what could I use for cheese?.
Please don't suggest making my own from bits of crud that I find on my body if I don't wash.
Lots of love
Chris
P.S.
Only button can answer this question, I do not want AR vegans sticking their noses in my cheese.
Jul 20 2005 14:39
#16
Dunno, Chris. I've never eaten vegan cheese, although it always looks shite. I would defy anyone to tell the difference between soya milk & semi-skimmed in a cup of tea though. *
Soya yoghurt is weird though -- it has a sort of chalky aftertaste.
*Edited to add: I do however accept that someone who smokes Gauloise roll-ups might not have the most finely-tuned taste-buds.
Jul 20 2005 14:53
#17
Hi
Thanks for the tip button. Vegan stuff tastes chalky to me as well.
How does a Gauloise roll up work?, is it special skins or 'baccy, or both?
Love
Chris
Jul 20 2005 15:01
#18
the only vegan cheese that's edible without vast quantities of pickle is the spreadable tofutti stuff, which taste more or less like dairy spreadable cheese. i never liked cheese anyway, except for the cheese that didn't taste of cheese. and most soya yoghurt is a bit weird tasting, yeah, except the summer and winter fruit yofu, but for some reason only in the big tubs. the plain one is good for making korma though. soya milk can be quite chalky too, unless you get the really nice expensive alpro soya ones in the tall cartons, that stuff is lush.
Jul 20 2005 15:08
#19
Tell you what makes a lush quichey-type thing too -- silken tofu & soya cream. Add a spoonful of dijon mustard & you're away. (Christ, what a wanker I am 
).
My Mrs uses it in her (poncey) "signature dish," caramelised red onion tart.
Jul 20 2005 15:22
#20
Hi
I shouldn't have started talking about food, maybe we should put this onto that recipes thread?
http://libcom.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=60333
Sorry
Chris
Jul 20 2005 15:24
#21
No doubt a trusty admin will be along in a moment.
Jul 20 2005 15:30
#22
Hi
How does a Gauloise roll up work?
I bet that is the French situationist cig-of-choice.
Love
Chris
Jul 20 2005 15:35
#23
You can get Gauloise rolling-tobacco from the more exclusive newsagents in London
And in France, obviously.
It's a bit strong *ahem*, but it doesn't make me cough like British tobaccos.
Jul 20 2005 20:00
#24
Hi
Do they usually come as straights with filter tips n' that?
I always imagined them as little cigars, never had one to be honest.
Cheers
Chris
Jul 20 2005 22:51
#25
I just can't trust anyone who talks about "peace" and "love".
Jul 20 2005 22:52
#26
the button wrote:
You can get Gauloise rolling-tobacco from the more exclusive newsagents in LondonAnd in France, obviously.
It's a bit strong *ahem*, but it doesn't make me cough like British tobaccos.
The best thing is, you don't even like it.
Jul 20 2005 23:28
#27
Hi
Refused wrote:
I just can't trust anyone who talks about "peace" and "love".
You need a cuddle.
Love
Chris
Jul 20 2005 23:29
#28
Pah, that's what my therapist would say and then she tried to seduce me by offering me Creme Eggs.
Jul 20 2005 23:33
#29
Hi
Is that bad?
Love
Chris
Jul 21 2005 12:51
#30
Well at least I didn't have to pay for it.
didn't that mussloni get the trains running on time, or does freely mean free like for nothing