Should we overhaul the music section?
Nov 29 2004 19:27
Thought it would help to expand the music (bands/labels/distors) directory with links and info, why?
(1) this way we could be better placed to organise potential gigs with local contacts, (2) we are better placed to review albums etc in our press, (3) to enable those putting out CDs to have a more viable list to draw from, (4) to listen to good music of course!
I could potentially list 30+ bands with a anarchist/left/progressive slant. What do others think?, and what of the enrager hosts?
Nov 30 2004 21:26
#2
october_lost wrote:
Thought it would help to expand the music (bands/labels/distors) directory with links and info, why?(1) this way we could be better placed to organise potential gigs with local contacts, (2) we are better placed to review albums etc in our press, (3) to enable those putting out CDs to have a more viable list to draw from, (4) to listen to good music of course!
I could potentially list 30+ bands with a anarchist/left/progressive slant. What do others think?, and what of the enrager hosts?
no crass
Nov 30 2004 21:34
#3
I have just been informed that music can now join Focualt alongside sucking Waynes dick!
music is soo bourgeois, it is the icing of the cake in our bid to control and rape nature. By seeking to control soundwaves we are only further alienating ourselves from the primitive.
Instead of listening to the soundtrack of the megadeath machine we should revel in the beauty of a cows fart or a horses orgasm!
I must repeat however that birds* singing are just a bunch of collaborationist scum and their sonic reign of terror from above must be resisted by all those who wish to be free.
*crows and seagulls are however good comrades in the struggle to liberate soundwaves and their beautifully wild squacks are a shining example of how free we can be.
Parrots are the ultimate collaborationists with the authors of the megaDeathMachine and will be shown no mercy.
Dec 1 2004 15:31
#4
Quote:
Instead of listening to the soundtrack of the megadeath machine we should revel in the beauty of a cows fart or a horses orgasm!
well yes, that might be preferable to listening to megadeath, they suck...
Dec 1 2004 17:40
#5
revol68 wrote:
I have just been informed that music can now join Focualt alongside sucking Waynes dick!music is soo bourgeois, it is the icing of the cake in our bid to control and rape nature. By seeking to control soundwaves we are only further alienating ourselves from the primitive.
Mocking Focualt and after that almost qouting him. Hillarious. 
Dec 1 2004 17:47
#6
focault never said anything so stupid, well except for his mad comments about the Iranian revolution.
Dec 3 2004 18:48
#7
Ive posted my list so if anyone wants to refute anything or add, or edit stuff that fine. But I will try and come back time from time and write short pieces and add links, Im simply restricted due to my net access.
**Indie/Rock
Desaparecidos
Indie/rock outfit named in Spanish after the 'disappeared' victims of Latin Americas right wing juntas, the band is fronted by Bright Eyes singer/songwriter Conor Oberst. Oberst screams out observational commentary about urban development, the sacrifice of human value for the dollar bill, and the new American Dream, in the same vein as At The Drive In, The Pixies and Weezer. Checkout Read Music / Speak Spanish album.
http://www.saddle-creek.com/html/desa_frame.html
The Mekons
Eclectic long lasting post-punk outfit, idealistic and thought provoking - in a similar vein as Gang Of Four.
http://www.southern.com/southern/band/MEKON/
Miss Black America
Manic Street Preachers
The (International) Noise Conspiracy
Tom Robinson Band
**Punk
Angelic Upstarts
Anti-Flag
Blaggers ITA
Berurier Noir
Chumbawumba
Citizen Fish
Conflict
Cress
Crass
Dead Kennedys
HHH
Icons Of Filth
Influx Of Pink Indians
Brigada Flore Magon
Newtown Neurotics
Oi Polloi
The Strike
Aus Rotten
The Clash
The Oppressed
Fifteen
Fighting Chance
Le Tigre
Lost Fasidos
Nikmat Olalim
**Hardcore/Emo
Morning Again
Assert
Choking Victim
Corporate Avenger
Earth Crisis
Kafka
Kill Your Idols
LeftOver Crack
Melmor
Racetraitor
Sick Of It All
Sin Dios
Limp Wrist
Murder Disco X
Ignite
Minor Threat
Strike Anywhere
Shelter
Thursday
Worker
Discharge
Cro-Mags
Boysetsfire
Pennywise
**Hip-Hop/RnB
Dead Prez
Asian Dub Foundation
Marxman
MC Solaar
Ms. Dynamite
Zion I
The Coup
**Other
Attila The Stockbroker
Linton Kwesi Johnson
Redskins
Ani DiFranco
Jello Biafra
**Metal/Alternative
Rage Against The Machine
Downset.
One Minute Silence
System Of A Down
Skindred
Warsaw Pack
**Folk
Dick Gaughan
Gauche Proletarienne
David Rovics
Zebda
Robb Johnson
Utah Phillips
The Levellers
Pete Seeger
John McCutcheon
Leon Rosselson
**Ska
Capdown
King Prawn
Link80
Ya Basta
**Grindcore/Death Metal
Malefaction
Brutal Truth
Napalm Death
Dec 3 2004 19:22
#8
le tigre are sooooooooo much better than punk. ok, they define themselves as something like feminist elctro-disco punk, but i reckon that they'd fit better under indie/rock. bikini kill could go under punk though. and sleater-kinney.
also under hip hop you should have ntm, paris, nas, public enemy and most importantly of all, immortal technique. and a huge fuck load of others that someone who's more seriously into hip hop.
Dec 3 2004 20:40
#9
Emo/hardcore:
Refused
Against Me!
1905
Homage To Catalonia
Millions Of Dead Cops
FEAR
Randy
Since By Man
(How did Thursday make it onto the list? They're awesome but not in the least bit political apart from on one song. And none of them are Anarchists.)
Weird Indie:
TEXT
Dec 3 2004 22:12
#10
What about alt.country?
Steve Earle
The Waco Brothers.
Jon Langford/Pine Valley Cosmonauts
Dec 3 2004 23:41
#11
october_lost wrote:
Earth Crisis
You are fucking joking, right?
How about Vegan Reich, too? 
Dec 6 2004 20:13
#12
Jack wrote:
october_lost wrote:
Earth Crisis
You are fucking joking, right?
How about Vegan Reich, too?
I dont know much about their politics, but Vegan Reich are homophobes...
Dec 6 2004 22:42
#13
earth crisis are fucking shite! their politics were a joke, even my vegan sxe house mate pisses himself at the shiteness of their world view!
Dec 7 2004 16:20
#14
You need some industrial.
Laibach
Test Dept
SPK
for starters.
Dec 7 2004 16:23
#15
^^^^^^^^^^^^ fuck off and listen to whitehouse u fascist paedo nonce! 
Dec 7 2004 16:36
#16
I'm going to see whitehouse tonight, actually.
Dec 7 2004 16:39
#17
wtf that band are fucked, the guys a fucking paedo and they have celtic crosses alll over the stage at most gigs!
Dec 7 2004 16:41
#18
Not by choice, I hasten to add, but because they're supporting Sunn o))), purveyors of sonic doom in a mad satanic druid stylee. I saw whitehouse once already, and they were mildly amusing for about 30 seconds and then just really fucking irritating for the remainder of their set.
Dec 7 2004 16:45
#19
Garner wrote:
Not by choice, I hasten to add, but because they're supporting Sunn o))), purveyors of sonic doom in a mad satanic druid stylee. I saw whitehouse once already, and they were mildly amusing for about 30 seconds and then just really fucking irritating for the remainder of their set.
Sunn o))) i seen those bunch of shit hawks on friday night! they were possibly the bigggest pile of shite ive ever been forced to listen to! waht pretenious boring bollox! imagine the intro to spinal taps stone henge set with out the humour or even music!
apparently they play at frequencies that can make u vomit and shit urself, well all i got was a fucking headache and ive a fucking sensitive stomach and i ve never as much felt like burping!!
even the sad bearded metallers looked bored and as for most of the girls at the gig they looked ready to stab their loser geek boyfriends in the eye for putting them thru such boredom!
Dec 7 2004 16:54
#20
Clearly you have no taste. I saw them on sunday and they fucking rocked, albeit very slowly. They're almost as cool as earth.
The fact that they've got whitehouse supporting does raise some doubts about their politics though, and hence whether I should be supporting them by buying rather than downloading their music.
Dec 7 2004 17:06
#21
Laibach.... now there was a band with spot-on politics. 
Oh, I forgot, they were being 'knowing' & 'ironic.'
Dec 7 2004 17:10
#22
laibach are defensible and i would suggest rather good, whitehouse are something altogehter more sinister........
saying that sometimes art is just art
Dec 7 2004 17:13
#23
Never heard Whitehouse (me = too old). Always had a shamefaced soft-spot for Laibach -- particularly their cover of 'One Vision.'
Dec 7 2004 17:16
#24
the button wrote:
Laibach.... now there was a band with spot-on politics.Oh, I forgot, they were being 'knowing' & 'ironic.'
There's actually quite a lot more to it than just being 'knowing' & 'ironic.'
Laibach's politics are quite clearly left-wing if not actually anarchist. Much more clearly in their later albums (Kapital onwards) than in the early ones.
There's a good analysis of what Laibach do here: http://www.ce-review.org/00/31/monroe31.html
[edit: fixed url]
Dec 7 2004 17:19
#25
revol68 wrote:
saying that sometimes art is just art
Laibach would disagree. For them art is always political.
"all art is subject to political manipulation, except for that which speaks the language of the same manipulation"
Dec 7 2004 17:19
#26
yeah dabbling in a bit of right wing imagery is grand, eg the manics on the holy bible.
oh and my friend has a fetish for nazi uniforms yet is a left leaning lesbian.
is it wrong that the idea of being dominated by a woman wearing leather boots and a ss cap isn't exactly repulsive to me? 
Dec 7 2004 17:22
#27
revol68 wrote:
is it wrong that the idea of being dominated by a woman wearing leather boots and a ss cap isn't exactly repulsive to me?
Hell no! Uniforms are sexy as fuck! Especially tight leather ones.
Dec 7 2004 18:53
#28
revol68 wrote:
earth crisis are fucking shite! their politics were a joke, even my vegan sxe house mate pisses himself at the shiteness of their world view!
I can only claim ignorance, so please enlighten me...
Dec 7 2004 19:36
#29
revol68 wrote:
yeah dabbling in a bit of right wing imagery is grand, eg the manics on the holy bible.oh and my friend has a fetish for nazi uniforms yet is a left leaning lesbian.
is it wrong that the idea of being dominated by a woman wearing leather boots and a ss cap isn't exactly repulsive to me?
Ive heard of jewish guys who wanna be dominated by women in SS uniforms. 
I think if you appropriate nazi imagery you should use it to make some sort of point. Not cos it looks cool or you just wanna shock (i.e sex pistols)
Dec 7 2004 19:40
#30
but it can't be denied that the SS uniforms looked cool as fuck in a menacing sort of way, im not suggesting walking around the streets in it just that certain parts of the aesthetic are sharp as fuck, just like the Soivet imagery!
yes please!
ideally we wanted bands by genre, with a link to a page on our site with a little description, a bit about their politics, then maybe 1 or 2 external links
If you could do that with some bands that'd be ace!