Now They Want to Drag Us, Kicking and Screaming
Leader of the House of Commons, Geoff Hoon is arguing that going to the polls in British elections should become compulsory.
Has there ever been a clearer admission of failure by a domestic politician?
Hoon: make people go to polls
Evening Standard 4 July 2005
Going to the polls should be made compulsory in General Elections, the Leader of the Commons Geoff Hoon is to argue.
He will use a speech to the left-of-centre Institute for Public Policy Research to say that the change is needed to reinvigorate Britain's democracy. He is the most senior Government minister to endorse compulsory voting.
According to press reports, Mr Hoon will say that the 61% turnout in May's General Election - only a fraction up from the all-time low in 1997 - left him "more concerned about our democracy than ever before".
But he is not expected to say that voting should be made compulsory, instead he will suggest that attending a polling station or registering for a postal vote should be sufficient.
"It is vital that there should be an option available to abstain or spoil your ballot paper," he is expected to say.
A spokesman for Mr Hoon said his speech would aim to start a debate on "ideas to improve voter engagement".
Anyone know what anarchists do in countries where it's compulsory? Like New Zealand no?
Hi
I vote tactically to keep a Tory out.
Out of 10, how would you score that action?
01 = Bad
05 = Neutral
10 = Good
I give it a 6.
Cheers
Chris
Anyone know what anarchists do in countries where it's compulsory? Like New Zealand no?
No, you're thinking of Australia.
Anyway, I know people there who just don't register to vote in the first place, and have never had any hassles.
Hi
I heard a rumour that they get a "none of the above" candidate? Is it true, or myth?
Love and Peace etc
Chris
John. wrote:
Anyone know what anarchists do in countries where it's compulsory? Like New Zealand no?No, you're thinking of Australia.
Anyway, I know people there who just don't register to vote in the first place, and have never had any hassles.
WTF do they do, the state that is, come round an round you up...? Can you get time for it?
I think they give out fairly hefty fines. But of course if you're not registered in the first place, they don't know you're supposed to have voted... The whole system seems pretty stupid really.
Dunno about the 'none of the above' thing.
Anyone know what anarchists do in countries where it's compulsory? Like New Zealand no?
You can get fined for it if you don't vote (whoah, a whole $50). But I'm not giving the government my hard earned cash for that...
We usually donkey-vote. ie. , vote for the fishing party, or the beer party, or something so totally ridiculous it won't get in.
Or write snarky but intelligent comments next to the major party options.
cinders x
Hi Cinders
Thanks for the information. I hope you enjoy Exeter, by the way.
I took the liberty of e-mailing the editor of Australia's Green Left Weekly www.greenleft.org.au , who kindly replied as follows...
HiWe're having a bit of a chat about democracy on http://www.libcom.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5749.
Would you let us know if Australians get a "None of the above" candidate on their election ballots?
In solidarity
Chris
Nope, you can vote informal, but there is no option on the ballot
So that's that cleared up.
Peace and Love
Chris
Hmmmm...Green Left Weekly.
I have some big issues with them.
They tend to have major issues sorting out facts before printing them sometimes.....
but that's a whole different story.
cinders x
Hi
I probably share your angle on GLW. I'm a bit of a tart.
Love
Chris
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The article on PA about this is even funnier:
MAKE PEOPLE VOTE SAYS HOON
By Gavin Cordon, PA Whitehall Editor
Leader of the Commons Geoff Hoon issued a call today for the
introduction of compulsory voting at general elections to reverse the
sharp decline in voter turnout.
Mr Hoon warned that ``serial non-voters'' - particularly among
younger people and in the more deprived areas - could threaten the
long-term legitimacy of the political system.
While he acknowledged that new voting methods - such as electronic
voting - could help to boost turnout, international experience had
shown that the most effective way was to make voting compulsory.
In a speech to the Institute for Public Policy Research, Mr Hoon
said that the turnout at the last general election of 61.5% was way
below the 75% plus which had been the norm for most of the post war
period.
With voting rates highest among older voters, he said that the
situation was likely to get worse as the years progressed unless
action was taken to stem the decline.
``My fear is that as the older, more regular voters die, we will be
left with a significant number of people for whom voting is neither a
habit, nor a duty,'' he said.
``Now we are seeing, not just twenty somethings, but people in
their thirties and forties who have never voted and who actually seem
proud to say so. This is something that greatly concerns me.
``This deliberate non-voting seems to be spreading up through our
voting population, threatening the long term legitimacy of our
political system.''
Mr Hoon blamed a sense of ``alienation'' from the political system
among people who felt that voting made no difference, a trend that
would be exacerbated as the parties increasingly tailored their
policies to people they knew would vote.
``My fear is that as time goes on, as all political parties become
more sophisticated at targeting actual voters, we could fail to pay
attention to serial non-voters,'' he said.
``This will alter our democratic debate, risking encouraging a
greater focus on issues of concern to the chattering classes,
neglecting issues of wider and more general concern. It is profoundly
dangerous for our political life.''
In contrast, he said that in countries such as Australia where
voting was compulsory, turnout could exceed 90%.
``To me, and this is entirely my personal perspective, a higher
turnout, will generate more political participation across all
strands of society,'' he said.
``A higher turnout is vital if we are to ensure a representative,
healthy and vibrant democracy in our country.
``International experience points to compulsory voting being the
most effective way to increase turnout.''
Mr Hoon said that he did not believe that large penalties would be
necessary to enforce compulsory voting.
He suggested that people could even be offered an incentive to
comply in the form a a small reduction in their council tax bill.
He stressed that people would still have the right to abstain or to
spoil their ballot papers.
Downing Street said that Mr Hoon's comments were intended to start
a debate on the issue and did not herald a change in policy.
``I think Geoff Hoon is really starting a debate. This is his
personal view. It is not signalling that the Government is about to
introduce a change,'' a spokeswoman said.
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