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Mar 3 2007 16:50

Index - I dont like the intro to the site being in a block, i think as its really thin - like 3 lines at the new width it should be in the centre coloumn.

But the block is fine for other pages on the site.

Mike Harman
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Mar 3 2007 18:03

OK dunno who did that. Unless you did and got fed up with it wink

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Mar 4 2007 02:34

i did it after asking on here, cos on main idex with about section and upgrade warning no new content at all was visible on the front page. now new content is prioritised; and it seemed to make sense to put About in the same place on all indexes, and the same place it was in libcom 4...

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Mar 4 2007 08:52

Nah I thought it was a good idea, although that block's really big now.

I'm not sure really, reckon the warning should be centred on main indexes (but optional, and we should switch it off as soon things are relatively stable). About probably stay where it is.

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Mar 4 2007 14:37

ok cool you wanna put warning back top middle then on index and remove from about box?

unless we shorten it to "Technical problems? We're upgrading. Read more..." linking to thread in feedback

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Mar 4 2007 14:42
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unless we shorten it to "Technical problems? We're upgrading. Read more..." linking to thread in feedback

that sounds good.

Mike Harman
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Mar 5 2007 00:32

the forums/library/thought/organise/history block don't look right down the bottom. I think they need filling out a bit - maybe bolded intros up top of each or something?

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Mar 5 2007 00:40

done a couple of short rushed intros for them to see if it fills the space better. Seems marginal improvement. To change text need to go to views admin - most are called front_something - then change the text in the block header.

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Mar 8 2007 17:18

don't like all the whitespace at bottom of main index - either need a block to go across the bottom, or make right column shorter, or something else.

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Mar 8 2007 17:21

i think main index is still going to change a bit in the near future no? i reckon leave for now till we've finalised it.

Mike Harman
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Mar 8 2007 17:40

yeah was just thinking. Want to take a look at news index next I think.

Mike Harman
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Mar 14 2007 00:40

Still think there's too many blocks on the index and it doesn't look right.

news and new articles blocks I reckon are fine and work well - wondering if new articles should be random from past week so it's a bit more varied, doesn't update that often.

Basically the other blocks just look a bit messy, not sure what to do yet but it's too much bitty stuff - would be better to have a couple of bigger blocks that maybe combine sections with each other - like a block with history first, then explaining library as further reading or whatever.

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Mar 14 2007 11:02
Mike Harman wrote:
Still think there's too many blocks on the index and it doesn't look right.

yeah not quite

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news and new articles blocks I reckon are fine and work well - wondering if new articles should be random from past week so it's a bit more varied, doesn't update that often.

yeah maybe a month though...

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Basically the other blocks just look a bit messy, not sure what to do yet but it's too much bitty stuff - would be better to have a couple of bigger blocks that maybe combine sections with each other - like a block with history first, then explaining library as further reading or whatever.

hmm i don't know... library box does not work. i'll have a think.

with tags - any way of say randomly displaying say 20 tags which have over 5 or 10 articles in?

Mike Harman
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Mar 14 2007 16:19

tags - not easily no.

Mike Harman
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Mar 14 2007 22:08

new version of tagadelic might come out soon though - it'll do things like most popular tags from the past week/month etc. so that might work.

changed new articles to random within a month.

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Mar 16 2007 12:17

hmm do we think news on the front page should maybe also be random 3 from the last week? or maybe more recent... maybe past 4 days? but there might be problems with that...

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Mar 16 2007 13:50

it's currently only promoted articles, so will go slower than main news page.

Don't think there's much of an issue doing random from the past 3-4 days - worse that'll happen is we have an article that there's already an update for, but that's hardly unusual on a lot of sites anyway.

We will hit an issue if there's no news at all from the past 3-4 days though, then there'll be nothing to show!

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Mar 16 2007 22:38

randomised front page news articles from past 3.5 days.

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Mar 19 2007 22:05

Still not happy about the blocks down the bottom.

How about this:

One block with history and library - links to each in the header, short intros, then maybe a random article.

Same for organise and thought.

Keep the forums block pretty much as is, and maybe one more block but not sure what yet.

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Mar 20 2007 12:14
Mike Harman wrote:
randomised front page news articles from past 3.5 days.

hmm, there were just 2 stories like that just now, now 3, so it looks weird. maybe best to put them in order...

Mike Harman wrote:
Still not happy about the blocks down the bottom.

How about this:

One block with history and library - links to each in the header, short intros, then maybe a random article.

sounds ok... might look weird though? you mean just random article from history right? cos library ones are a bit of a mess?

ok, i think we should write shorter intros though, and probably use the same small text we use for teasers? i think the about sections should be like that too.

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Same for organise and thought.

yeah ok

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Keep the forums block pretty much as is, and maybe one more block but not sure what yet.

yeah.

Actually thinking about it. We have the 2 sets of content areas. News, thought, hist, org, and library and forums. maybe it'd be best in blocks to combine thought, hist, org in one block, and lib/forums in another?

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Mar 20 2007 12:26

Yeah one big combined block might work - maybe just static, or with one random thought/organise/history block at the bottom? Could maybe mention tags/regions/sectors as well.

The other indexes are going to be pretty big in themselves, so having less there would help I think.

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Mar 24 2007 11:58
OK so how about just something like this on one side - then something like notes/new forum topics on the other side? The headers would be little graphics ideally - just variation on main logo.

sections

news

class struggle news from around the world

history

libcom's vast archive of anarchist and communist theory and working class history.

library

libcom's vast archive of anarchist and communist theory and working class history.

forums

general and regional discussion

organise

our guide to everything from door-knocking to good-work strikes.

thought

Theoretical articles by libcom and introductions to ideas elsewhere on the site
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Mar 26 2007 15:10
Mike Harman wrote:
OK so how about just something like this on one side - then something like notes/new forum topics on the other side? The headers would be little graphics ideally - just variation on main logo.

Right so with no random articles? hmmm. I do really like the random articles...

but maybe we could do it like that, or say like this:

sections at the top order like this:
* news
* history
* organise
* thought
* library
* forums

Then have news/articles feeds as are. Then below have little blocks kinda like now, but arranged differently, with smalltext shorter intros and one random article.
- history - organise
- thought - library
- forums - other block (notes, etc.)

library... hmmm not sure about this. could be 2-3 random articles, just titles, and forums like now 2-3 latest topics, without the links to UK, international, etc.

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Mar 26 2007 17:17

if we have the sections at the top - that means static content in that space instead of new stuff - also I'm not too sure about having more than one entry for a section on the main page - the top menu and a block is already kinda two.

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Mar 27 2007 09:55
Mike Harman wrote:
if we have the sections at the top - that means static content in that space instead of new stuff - also I'm not too sure about having more than one entry for a section on the main page - the top menu and a block is already kinda two.

No no I just meant in the top bar as they are now. I was just suggesting a different order, which groups the 2 types of sections and puts them in the same order on the page as in the top bar.

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Mar 27 2007 15:36

ah ok - so change the link order in the main menu, ok that makes sense.

We need to fix the thought index asap by the way, it's a mess. Once that looks good this'd be fine I think.

Still not sure about blocks but it's worth a try.

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Apr 3 2007 12:02

main index still has big text on top 2 feeds. i was thinking tho, how about making them 2 stories each, just copying the right block feeds?

also little library block with jest description might be good? tho a shame cos 4 blocks looks nice...

here's a go at some descriptions:

history
Working class history and biographies

organise
Guides on topics from strike action to debt

forums
Latest discussions on our forums

thought
Theoretical articles, factsheets and ideas

library
Our archive of left, anarchist and workers' texts

how about it?

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Apr 3 2007 13:07

yes to both of those, like the descriptions. We should either have four blocks or six - or at least have them so they're roughly the same length each side.

Been thinking at the bottom we could have features full width - like Hungary '56 last year, maybe try to get a Russian Revolution one ready for October, stuff like that. Would balance the page out a bit and since we don't really have a features section it could be pretty good.

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Apr 3 2007 13:09

hmm yeah, and maybe a features tag linked to it to? i think we need that so there's an easy way of seeing our particularly good stuff.

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yes to both of those, like the descriptions. We should either have four blocks or six - or at least have them so they're roughly the same length each side.

yeah, okay. well we could have library with some random titles, like forums, then have a 6th block which links to shop, notes, explore, and intros/glossary, libcommunity (eventually)?

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Apr 4 2007 15:53

right did 2 story thing on front page, pleased i figured that out.

also killed bottom links on forums box - they were messed up HTML anyway.

will have a go at doing shrunk descriptions...