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Jun 24 2016 13:45
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Ahhhh, the perennial "the admins aren't communist on this communist website" thread. Don't mind if I do. . .

Why do I need a password to access my account? What kind of ivory tower gate keeping bullshit operation do you have running here?

The fuck is with that authoritarian penguin always jumping down my throat? I've seen more libcomish penguins hanging out at Trump Tower for fuck sakes. Try harder.

And finally, "ban revol". Fuck that, you ban revol, you ban yourself. Go fucking join the sparts admin scum.

Also, fuck these up/down votes.

Censorship.

Groupthink.

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Jun 24 2016 14:33

Also, any word on who doctored my post?

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Jun 24 2016 15:19
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Also, any word on who doctored my post?

Are you serious?

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Jun 24 2016 15:21

*traditional mention of Aufheben that you get on this kind of thread*

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Jun 24 2016 15:45

*teachers is cops of the mind.*

truly, it's like no time has passed.

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Jun 24 2016 15:56

Indeed.

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Jun 24 2016 16:11
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Also ref another thread - a ban threat for posting nonsense? Hahahahahahaha! Fair application of that rule would be to ban practically every fucker on the site. You can put me at the top of the list if you like.

I know it's not what you want to hear but I LURVES YOU NOAH FENCE!

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*traditional mention of Aufheben that you get on this kind of thread*

I've trawled through the comments above but can find no mention of the Dead 'C' Scrolls [Aufheben].

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Jun 24 2016 16:26
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Indeed.

although tbf, the long term poster revealing fash sympathies in a thread about anit-semitism, and the subsequent complete lack of self awarenes or solidarity for Jewish comrades from a couple posters?-- I think that might be a new feat.

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Jun 24 2016 16:39

Yes, zeronowhere's reveal was a bit shocking to say the least. And you're right that that thread made a few other posters look pretty bad.

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Jun 24 2016 17:45
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Also, any word on who doctored my post?

Are you serious?

That's what the thread's intended to be about. Anyone want to tell me who carried out the removals, or was it just 'the management'? Come on, who was the malevolent fiend who wasn't familiar with 17th century alchemical encryption?

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Jun 24 2016 18:04
factvalue wrote:
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factvalue wrote:
Also, any word on who doctored my post?

Are you serious?

That's what the thread's intended to be about. Anyone want to tell me who carried out the removals, or was it just 'the management'? Come on, who was the malevolent fiend who wasn't familiar with 17th century alchemical encryption?

Crikey. And I got voted down for simply asking that 3 word question, as I did for making an apology! Lmao. Chilli said Libcom is weird at the moment, I think Libcom is a fucking joke athe moment is more accurate. I would invite approximately half the posters on here to suck my balls. Fuck the duplicitous idiots. I may not be as smart as them but I'm straight and open and not a sneaky piece of fucking slime.

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Jun 24 2016 18:08

I agree with all of that except the part about their smarts, they ain't all that.

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Jun 24 2016 18:16

I didn't say they are smart, just smarter than me, which isn't saying much.

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Jun 24 2016 18:23
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I didn't say they are smart, just smarter than me, which isn't saying much.

Well i think in order to be a socialist you have to be smart to see the greater picture tongue

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Jun 24 2016 18:31
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I didn't say they are smart, just smarter than me, which isn't saying much.

Well i think in order to be a socialist you have to be smart to see the greater picture tongue

On here though many people are so focused on appearing to be right or to fit in with the consensus that they lose sight of the picture completely. They are technically what's known as total fucking dickheads.

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Jun 25 2016 05:08

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Jun 24 2016 22:16

... so anyway, which admin wants to own up and at least explain themselves a little, or would that mar the shadowy effect?

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Jun 25 2016 08:49

Auld-bold:

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Jun 25 2016 09:12
factvalue wrote:
... so anyway, which admin wants to own up and at least explain themselves a little, or would that mar the shadowy effect?

It's getting a bit like Scooby Doo on here. Man the Mystery Machine FV, you can be Freddie(or young Tony Hart as I like to call him) UV can be the lovely Daphne and I'll be a combo of Shaggy and Velma(half blind on account of my almost ceaseless wanking!). All of the admins can be the witch doctor, the ghostly Victorian deep sea diver, the transparent sea captain or the Abominable Snowman. Of course they'll all turn out to be the museum curator and would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for us pesky non line towing refuseniks.

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Jun 25 2016 11:05

Right fact value well I've got the info from the admin who removed the comment (thanks for wasting more of my time BTW).

In that comment you were calling the mother of another poster a "sordid whore". Just because you said it from an oh so clever quotation doesn't mean it's not sexist and whore phobic, so you can fuck right off and consider yourself on a final warning for wasting admin time so the next time you post something sexist, discriminatory or abusive you are banned.

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Jun 25 2016 14:34

Well, fv, I guess that settles your hash, huh? You've been properly warned. You time-waster, you. The audacity, asking why the admins removed your sexist, discriminatory, or abusive comment.

And that warning came from the admin, who wrote on the UK - EU referendum: "Anyway on this note, got a good contender for cunt of the day..."-- using a disparaging term for women's genitals, a term originating in the need to demean women, to reduce them truly to nothing but meat, as criticism-- but that's not "sexist," no fucking way. And if you think so, that just proves what a cunt you are.

Think my daughters would take exception to that line of not reasoning, though. But what do they know, being women, you know, and just.... (Cue the admin to explain how "cunt" has a longstanding, proletarian pedigree and is generally acceptable. Or maybe just threaten to ban me. What a threat that would be.)

Uh.... Steven, fv was not calling the mother of another poster anything. His comment had shit-zero to do with SF's mother. "Whore phobic"???? That's priceless. An unreasonable, uncontrollable fear of whores? Oh, where is our goldene Siggy Freud when we need him?

The terms fv used, even if not his own, especially because they were not his own, are obviously hyperbole-- so exaggerated as to be mirth-provoking.

Unlike your use of the word "cunt."

So, Steven, why don't you just get back on your high-horse and ride away? Talk about a time-waster.............

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Jun 25 2016 14:40
S. Artesian wrote:
And that warning came from the admin, who wrote on the UK - EU referendum: "Anyway on this note, got a good contender for cunt of the day..."-- using a disparaging term for women's genitals, a term originating in the need to demean women, to reduce them truly to nothing but meat, as criticism-- but that's not "sexist," no fucking way. And if you think so, that just proves what a cunt you are.

Artesian, you are American. In UK English the word "cunt" has no sexist connotations. At worst it's an equivalent to calling someone a "dick", but we also use it as a term of endearment. (Also you omit that I was talking about Len McCluskey, a man)

I appreciate you are upset that I pointed out you were calling for the same EU referendum vote as Nigel Farage and co and so are looking to score some points against me, but unless you think it's acceptable for posters here to call each other's mothers "whores" then you don't really have a very good argument.

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Jun 25 2016 14:46

S. Artesian - you really are a shit stirring sordid whore, aren't you. Your admin-phobic hyperbole iare the rantings of a retarded mental case, you'll probably start using nutter-phobic terms of abuse next. And don't start displaying your manphobia by calling me a dick. You cunt.

Lol, cross posted with Steven.

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Jun 25 2016 14:49

S. Artesian in not understanding America isn't the world shocker..

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Jun 25 2016 15:03
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In UK English the word "cunt" has no sexist connotations

Oh, I've heard that before, and it was bullshit then, and bullshit now. The word originated as a reference to female genitalia, and then morphed to include meaning a stupid or unpleasant person. All women have "cunts" but stupid or unpleasant people are called cunts-- right, there's not a bit of sexism. Strains credibility a wee bit.

That you are blind to it doesn't mean it isn't there. Just means you are blind.

As for scoring points against you, you Golden Dawn supporter you, you Nazi-lover (you were opposed to the Soviet Union, weren't you? Hitler opposed the Soviet Union too), you score more points against yourself than I could ever achieve.

I mean, look at this thread. Nobody asked you to intervene. The admin who excised fv's remark could have spoken for himself/or herself. Instead you take it upon yourself to intervene, and then complain (and threaten fv) for what you took upon yourself voluntarily.

You're a fucking crybaby. Quite whining. Take your thumb out of your mouth. Grow-up or get the fuck out.

EDIT: Although, to me the whole thing was made worthwhile by your creation of the term "whore-phobic." Overwhelming fear of whores. Who else could have thought that one up?

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Jun 25 2016 15:38

Firstly you'll have to forgive me but I have no interest in wasting your time or engaging you in any way. I already questioned your involvement when you admitted to not even having read the exchange in question when you originally stuck your oar in, and it looks as though you still haven't read it, since your second-hand quotation from your mystery mate is incorrect, I didn't call the mother of another poster (Serge Forward can confirm this, unless he's in cahoots) 'a' sordid anything. I didn't mention his mother in any way, the phrase I used was 'the sordid whore' as in 'You sir are the minstrel blood of the sordid whore' taken from the 17th century alchemist source I have already sited - but which your ghostly companion removed - and it wasn't used as an insult, which you'd already know if you actually had taken any time to find out anything at all about the subject you've taken such an interest in. The original meaning, which contrary to what you'd prefer is far from being beside the point, is central, in that it refers to a worthy source of a sought-after chemical product and it was in response to Serge's post in which he claimed that I'd been talking shite throughout the anti-Zionist thread. My intention was to demonstrate the contrast between what I'd been posting in that thread and something which he'd probably consider actual 'shite' i.e. material that neither he nor anyone on libcom would be likely to understand but which was also, ironically, itself perfectly cogent. Again, just because you don't understand something someone writes, that doesn't necessarily say anything about them. Just because you interpret something as sexist and whore phobic, that doesn't mean that it is, as anyone who hasn't completely lost touch with external reality will happily confirm for you if you just ask.

Can anybody reading this look at that phrase again and ask yourself if it can only be interpreted in the way suggested by this 'admin' and his ghostly compadre, and also ask yourself why such an interpretation was so quickly jumped at?

How is that phrase 'whore phobic' btw? It doesn't describe all sex workers as 'sordid'. Are you Steven, and your ghost writer, claiming that it's impossible for sex workers to ever be sordid because they are sex workers? Now that sounds like it might emanate from phobia to me.

You've just told me to fuck right off. I think that is an abuse of your position. Is telling someone to fuck right off abusive if I do it, or if you do it, both, or neither, give me your interpretation would you? Is telling someone to fuck right off for questioning a decision of 'the management' abusive/constitute managerialism?

Will the admin who's actually responsible for this please identify and explain themselves?

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Jun 25 2016 15:15

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[i]‘Artesian, you are American. In UK English the word "cunt" has no sexist connotations. At worst it's an equivalent to calling someone a "dick", but we also use it as a term of endearment. ’[/i]

Maybe where you live or with your friends - not mine. I think this sounds like post-feminist wank.

I posted this in 01-02-12 and it was binned along with the rest of the thread:

‘Sexual objectification refers to the practice of regarding or treating another person merely as an instrument (object) towards one's sexual pleasure…’

(From Wikipedia – Sexual Objectification)

Feminist perspectives
Some radical feminists of the 1970s sought to eliminate disparaging terms for women, including "bitch" and "cunt". In the context of pornography, Catharine MacKinnon argued that use of the word acts to reinforce a dehumanisation of women by reducing them to mere body parts; and in 1979 Andrea Dworkin described the word as reducing women to "the one essential – 'cunt: our essence ... our offence'".

(From Wikipedia – ‘Cunt’)

In my opinion reducing anyone, male or female, to a physical attribute is demeaning. The use of Anglo-Saxon words in much swearing dates I believe, from the Norman invasion (and the arrival of a new ruling class), the Anglo-Saxon tongue was considered the vulgar expression of the uneducated; it was however very useful to describe the baseness of everyday life and its functions. The large number of sexual connotations found in swearing is largely due, I believe, to the general disgust of sexuality endemic in Christianity and generally in all religions.

The negative sexual meaning in much swearing today is a residue of this oppressive and repressive past. Men and women may think that by exercising their right to free expression in using this terminology they are breaking down the barriers of conventional discourse. I feel this is misguided, rather it is perpetuating the language of a historical past that should be transcended. No use of language is neutral.’

End of post.

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Jun 25 2016 15:19

Agree with Auld-bold, and gob-smacked (that's a positive British term, no?) at how clearly and concisely he/she explains the issue.

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Jun 25 2016 15:42
S. Artesian wrote:
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In UK English the word "cunt" has no sexist connotations

Oh, I've heard that before, and it was bullshit then, and bullshit now. The word originated as a reference to female genitalia, and then morphed to include meaning a stupid or unpleasant person. All women have "cunts" but stupid or unpleasant people are called cunts-- right, there's not a bit of sexism. Strains credibility a wee bit.

You have shown you've got no idea what you are talking about here so I'm not going to discuss this with you any further.

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EDIT: Although, to me the whole thing was made worthwhile by your creation of the term "whore-phobic." Overwhelming fear of whores. Who else could have thought that one up?

Yep, I made that term up, and you definitely know what you're talking about, when it comes to English and feminism. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/jun/23/sex-workers-whorephobia

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Jun 25 2016 15:43

whorephobia is not a word made up for the purpose of this thread.

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=whorephobia

crossposted.