tags and child pages.

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Jul 26 2007 15:03
tags and child pages.

IF I delete a tag it warns me that child pages will be deleted. Does this mean that every article with the tag will be deleted? Because at the moment I'm deleting the tags from the articles first but it would be quicker to be able to just delete the tag.

Biography and Belgium killed so far today.

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Jul 26 2007 16:18

One point, is it possible to make the list of tags given when you're submitting an article firmer? because mine cannot be scrolled down and it is transparent so not always easy to read. It is especially difficlt for entering acronyms for groups.

tags killed:
building
Bush Family
Cable St
Catholic Church (Changed single entry to Catholicism, although I'd be tempted to use catholic church instead.)
cities
class suicide
Civil Rights
claimants
College
commodity
communist (communism and communists is more than enough to my mind)
critique of political economy
conspiracy
Czech
curfew
deaf
discourses
Drug testing
Douglass, Dave
Douglass,Dave
environmental disaster
environmentalism
environmental protection
exploitation
Felix
facism
film star graphic
fashion week
First World War
forwarded by Kevin Keating
foundational issues
freedom of movement
Freedon of speech
French
from 2003...
gathering
George
global warming
guerillas
health care
health
Hungary 1956 (only because it was empty and 56 wasn't, I recko 1956 is better)
hospital
I.T.T.
identity
industrial action
industrial sociology
invasion
internationalists
International Communist Current
Islington Unwaged 1
IWA-2006
iwu
Lacan
Laclau

probably should go: (number of articles) a lot of these tags won't need replacing, just deleting.
bureaucracy (1)
Cable and wireless (1) (this might also need to merge with British Cable and Wireless but I don't know enough about it)
Chase Bank (1)
chemicals (2)
Chirac (4)
coalheavers (1)
Coca-cola (4)
countries (15) I'm certain it's useless but I'm not deleting all those tags from the articles manually unless I have to.
deaths
discussion (1 but it looked funny)
economics
education (5)
empire (1)
engineering (2)
electricity ? (8)
family (3)
Exxon (1)
EZ-Supply (1)
fast food (3)
features (5)
food (4)
Fuel (4)
future (1)
gardening (2)
hotels
illegalism(1)
images (2)
insurrection (1)
IT (2)
Job Losses (10+) I thought we'd decided on dismissals as a catch all terms for job losses, sackings redundancies etc. I might be imagnining things though,
kfc (2)
language (1)

up to page 22 I'm done for the day.

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Jul 26 2007 18:21

Wow! Nice work Jef.

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IF I delete a tag it warns me that child pages will be deleted

Eh?

That should only happen if you try to delete a forum - please don't do that! Which tag was it?

Otherwise you should just be able to delete the tag I think without it killing an article - could always make a new article with a new tag to try it out.

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ne point, is it possible to make the list of tags given when you're submitting an article firmer? because mine cannot be scrolled down and it is transparent so not always easy to read.

Do you mean the autocomplete? I don't know what scrolled down means with that - it's usually only one or two.

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Jul 27 2007 12:04
Mike Harman wrote:
Wow! Nice work Jef.

smile

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Eh?

That should only happen if you try to delete a forum - please don't do that! Which tag was it?

Otherwise you should just be able to delete the tag I think without it killing an article - could always make a new article with a new tag to try it out.

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Are you sure you want to delete the term Luxemburg?
Deleting a term will delete all its children if there are any. This action cannot be undone.

This is the message I got when trying to delete the tag Luxemburg (full name is also a tag)
I wasn't sure what it meant, I hadn't thought of creating a dummy article. Only problem is I wouldn't be able to pass it through moderation so it would probably be easier for an admin to do it.
Let me know and I can do most of the list of tags that are marked for death as well.

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Do you mean the autocomplete? I don't know what scrolled down means with that - it's usually only one or two

yeah the autocomplete box is transparent and can be hard to read, you can't scroll if there are lots of terms either, it's a minor point but sometimes when you're looking for tags it can be a pain.

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Jul 27 2007 12:08

OK child terms there's no need to worry about - all of our tags are at the same level so it's not an issue at all. Just go ahead and kill them!

The only issue is if an article only has one tag and we delete that, then it'll disappear from some menus in the site, not a huge deal though because it'll get picked up again eventually (book pages are an exception, they normally don't get tagged anyway).

autocomplete I'll have a look a bit later.

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Jul 27 2007 12:13

cool.
I actually managed to figure it out by myself, I copied the article and tags etc so there was a backup just in case and then killed the tag.

I'll probably get started after lunch.

one point, a lot of the crappy tags were empty, which suggests that the tags were deleted off articles but the tag itself was kept. Is there any way to kill a tag directly or do you always have to search through the categories>terms>tags route?

autocomplete isn't a major problem. If you could remind me the clever way to do footnotes that's be cool.

edit: with the businesses do we keep the tags? because t seems a bit pointless to m to have the tag unless the business appears frquently (like LAing O'Rourke or DaimlerChrysler) but if there isn't a tag then people won't know to tag it. So should I leave the business ones in or not?

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Jul 27 2007 13:02
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one point, a lot of the crappy tags were empty, which suggests that the tags were deleted off articles but the tag itself was kept. Is there any way to kill a tag directly or do you always have to search through the categories>terms>tags route?

Yeah exactly. That's why we love you so much for doing this wink

We've found a way to restrict freetagging to editors, so this might be the last time there's a major tidy up, I don't think it actually works though yet.

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autocomplete isn't a major problem. If you could remind me the clever way to do footnotes that's be cool.

Footnotes - you just put <fn>footnote text here</fn> in the relevant places in the text- then it replaces them with 1, 2, 3 and sticks the actual text down the bottom.

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edit: with the businesses do we keep the tags? because t seems a bit pointless to m to have the tag unless the business appears frquently (like LAing O'Rourke or DaimlerChrysler) but if there isn't a tag then people won't know to tag it. So should I leave the business ones in or not?

It's hard to know. We usually put them in for companies we think there'll be a lot of, but that could be anything.

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Jul 27 2007 13:18
Mike Harman wrote:
Footnotes - you just put <sup class="see_footnote" title="footnote text here"><a href="#footnote1">1</a></sup> in the relevant places in the text- then it replaces them with 1, 2, 3 and sticks the actual text down the bottom.

nah that's not the clever way, the clever way is to put (fn)FOOTNOTE TEXT HERE(/fn) but with triangular brackets where you want the footnote to appear

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Jul 27 2007 13:24
Joseph K. wrote:
Mike Harman wrote:
Footnotes - you just put <sup class="see_footnote" title="footnote text here"><a href="#footnote1">1</a></sup> in the relevant places in the text- then it replaces them with 1, 2, 3 and sticks the actual text down the bottom.

nah that's not the clever way, the clever way is to put (fn)FOOTNOTE TEXT HERE(/fn) but with triangular brackets where you want the footnote to appear

and the numbering is done autmatically?

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Jul 27 2007 13:35

yep, hence the clever ;)

E.g. this is an example of posting a footnote using fn tags1

  • 1. for which i had to use my special admin powers to enable html in a forum post, but will work in any submission with an input format allowing html
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Jul 27 2007 14:00

nice one jef!

anti-fascism needs to go too

these ones can go, but don't delete the ones i'm putting in bold

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probably should go: (number of articles) a lot of these tags won't need replacing, just deleting.
bureaucracy (1)
Cable and wireless (1) (this might also need to merge with British Cable and Wireless but I don't know enough about it)
Chase Bank (1)
chemicals (2)
Chirac (4)
coalheavers (1)
Coca-cola (4)
countries (15) I'm certain it's useless but I'm not deleting all those tags from the articles manually unless I have to.
deaths
discussion (1 but it looked funny)
economics
education (5)
empire (1)
engineering (2)
electricity ? (8)
family (3)
Exxon (1)
EZ-Supply (1)
fast food (3)
features (5)
food (4)
Fuel (4)
future (1)
gardening (2)
hotels
illegalism(1)
images (2)
insurrection (1)
IT (2)
Job Losses (10+) I thought we'd decided on dismissals as a catch all terms for job losses, sackings redundancies etc. I might be imagnining things though,
kfc (2)
language (1)
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Jul 27 2007 14:13

I'll do that after my next installment of 'eat everything in the fridge'

ok I'll get rid of them, just to check, do you want Job losses to go entirely or should I replace it with dismissals?
I really think we need a tag for that and I reckon dismissals is the best catch all one.

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Jul 27 2007 19:41

Have to sort out that error with the footnotes.

Anyway

<fn>footnote</fn>

haha!

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Jul 27 2007 19:52

I thought this thread was going to be about Chris Langham. sad