after that they were a little too quick to jump in to the defense of Aufheben
Just quickly on this, while I can see why it might appear this way, libcom have been aware of this situation since August and investigated it in some depth at that time, including taking time out from our other commitments (for me, this meant interrupting work on my dissertation) to meet people, make phone calls, read academic papers, email people, discuss the results etc. So while we may appear to have acted hastily, this is only because everyone else is coming in late on something that we've been aware of for 6 weeks or so, and has apparently been going on since January.
They are saying that J is arguing that police should not treat emergencies as public order situations. So he would have been arguing against that.
been wondering this myself.
If J is actually training police or directly helping police then he shouldn't be at meetings or protests. While some of his stuff seems to be useful to the cops, it does seem to me, from the evidence so far, that he isn't doing directly helping cops.
I think fall back did a fairly decent job of boiling down the accusations to discussable points rather than back and forths where the goalposts shifted so often nothing could have been achieved.
TPTG should have contacted Aufheben directly and should have tried another method if they were unhappy with contacting aufheben through J.
To be honest I think the admins have been a bit touchy here but considering that at least one of them has been smeared and outed in the past I am hardly surprised. The arguments are circular and confusing and every attempt to pin them down to specifics is ignored or rebutted with something nebulous. Add in the fact that samotnaf seems to fly off the handle fairly regularly and those who registered just to argue the toss, then it's understandable.
I still feel like J is sailing pretty close to the wind, and like mons says I think it would be nice to see a clearer picture. The problem is posting this up publicly woould probably be worse than what has happened so far. Ideally this should have been a private response that it was agreed would not be published. I think spikymike has written a good post (as has mons) and I think perhaps we could get somewhere if everyone else could do the same.
So you're saying that there are no names, apart from the names.
Academics get paid so little for articles I doubt they'd care.
Sorry sam, I tried to read your article but it was so full of hyperbole that I gave up. I am not surprised others have too.