Can we tally Obama's true legacy ahead of next week's inevitable sanctification?

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spaceman spiff
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Jan 15 2017 02:28
Can we tally Obama's true legacy ahead of next week's inevitable sanctification?

Some of my friends have already begun posting saccharin goodbyes to Obama on social media. I expect that next week we will be subjected to a tireless media onslaught sanctifying the man.

So can we tally here the true legacy of his presidency for posterity so that we don't end up fooled by the rose-tinted portrayal he is going to get over the next few years?
Off the top of my head:

- He expanded state surveillance by allowing the NSA to share its data with 16 other agencies.

- The Snowden leaks revealed that an American deal with Israel "places no legal limits" on the use of American data by Israelis

- He raised military aid to Israel to $3.8 billion annually

- He more than doubled the Bush administration's arms sales to foreign states

Anyone care to add to this?

zugzwang
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Jan 15 2017 02:54

What about the drone assassination program?

Fleur
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Jan 15 2017 03:28

Deported more people than any other president (2.5 million 2009 -2015.)

Waited until the last week of his presidency to opine that something ought to be done about mass incarceration in the US, mostly incidentally as a result of the racist drug laws which were in part drafted by Joe Biden.

Bombed seven countries.

spaceman spiff
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Jan 15 2017 12:01

Zugzwang, I don't know enough about the drone program to talk about it. Did he establish it?

Regarding bombing 7 countries, the US dropped 3 bombs per hour every hour of 2016

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Jan 15 2017 15:51

I don't think he established it, but targeted killings have expanded under him and Trump will soon inherit the drone program. The use of drones is one way bombings are carried out in those countries you mentioned, taking innocent people's lives and being of questionable legality.

Economically, you could also talk about his failure to do anything substantial for the working class. Real wages have stagnated since the 1970s, the national debt has increased as a result of borrowing (instead of taxing the rich), and the rich are paying much less in taxes than they were in the 1960s. These might be worth reading.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/feb/14/usecono...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/01/us-taxa...

https://socialistworker.org/blog/critical-reading/2011/12/26/marxist-exp...

potrokin
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Jan 15 2017 20:16

Thats a pretty rapie source of info, Just sayin'.

zugzwang
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Jan 15 2017 20:36
potrokin wrote:

Thats a pretty rapie source of info, Just sayin'.

Sorry I don't know anything about this website in particular. I only linked to it because it's hosting an essay by Richard Wolff, similar to another essay in his book Capitalism's Crisis Deepens, that I couldn't find anywhere else. Does this website have a bad reputation?

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Jan 15 2017 20:55

Yes, the Socialist Worker is the official newspaper of the trot Socialist Workers Party (SWP) in the UK. A lot of what appears in that publication is ideologically slanted and in many cases may elide things if it doesn't fit the narrative they want. Then again, there are some good articles in that paper from time to time; a stopped clock does, after all, tell the correct time a couple of times a day.

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Jan 15 2017 21:13
Khawaga wrote:
Yes, the Socialist Worker is the official newspaper of the trot Socialist Workers Party (SWP) in the UK.

that's not socialistworker.org, that's socialistworker.co.uk. The .org site is run by an American group.

Obama didn't establish the targeted killing policy, but I believe he established it being okay to murder American citizens.

This is a good blog on how Obama's bailout which was meant to help homeowners in fact just helped big banks: https://libcom.org/blog/looking-back-obama%E2%80%99s-bailouts-hamp-12012...

Obamacare effectively gave large amounts of money to private health insurance companies, and has rocketing premiums for people having to pay in.

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Jan 15 2017 22:26
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that's not socialistworker.org, that's socialistworker.co.uk. The .org site is run by an American group.

Ooops. I should've clicked on the link I guess. I just looked at the URL. Is the US outfit part of the IST?

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Jan 15 2017 23:11

The ISO were expelled from the IST by the SWP-UK allegedly over ISO lack of funding for SWP-UK.

petey
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Jan 15 2017 23:17
Steven. wrote:
Obamacare effectively gave large amounts of money to private health insurance companies

this

potrokin
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Jan 21 2017 23:59
zugzwang wrote:
potrokin wrote:

Thats a pretty rapie source of info, Just sayin'.

Sorry I don't know anything about this website in particular. I only linked to it because it's hosting an essay by Richard Wolff, similar to another essay in his book Capitalism's Crisis Deepens, that I couldn't find anywhere else. Does this website have a bad reputation?

My apologies zugzwang, I should have checked the link. I assumed it was the SWP in the UK, I am sorry- although it is my understanding that the American SWP, if that is the party who prints the publication you linked to, is a Trotskyist organisation.

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Jan 16 2017 14:07

Should have a blog up today/tmmrw on his immigration policies