Czech This Out
Jan 24 2007 14:55
http://aka.anarchokomunismus.org/
Who are this lot?
Jan 24 2007 19:08
#2
I'm guessing their name is anarchist communist alternative, and that isn't the only group with that label as there, the IFA have a different group there too. They've got some sticker with a fist smashing into a hammer and sickle, i guess their interpretation of that symbol is more hostile as they lived under the soviet union.
Jan 24 2007 19:38
#3
I am working in the Czech Republic at the moment. The people that I am closest to politically are a group called KPK. However, at the weekend I met someone from the Czecho-Slovak anarchist federation, and will meet him again soon, and get an answer to this question.
To give a brief summary of what I remember from the conversation about the Czech anarchist movement:
After the 'Velvet Revolution' a group emerged called the 'Czecho-Slovak anarchist federation'. This group still exists today. The regions are autonomous, and I was told that the most active one was central Bohemia (the region around Prague, but not including it as it has its own region), which produces its own paper. From this group emerged an group that became an IWA section, and a Platformist group, ORA-Solidarita. I am not sure if they split together, or at different times. The IWA group, as far as I know, has dissolved itself into anti-fascism, and the Platformist group (which was in contact with the WSM) split/evolved (I am not sure) into the left communist KPK. I will find out about this group the next time I meet the guy from the Anarchist Federation.
Maybe I will ask one of the Czechs to write a very brief summary of the diferent groups, and their history.
Devrim
Jan 24 2007 20:19
#4
Devrim wrote:
the Platformist group (which was in contact with the WSM) split/evolved (I am not sure) into the left communist KPK.
Devrim
It was a split, i've a feeling the AKA are the other half of what was the platformist group.
Jan 24 2007 20:27
#5
just two more or less important clarifications:
- ora-solidarita didn´t have its roots in csaf (but in anarchosyndicalist federation... which some people left to found group solidarita -around 1996- which after adopted positions of platforism);
- ora-solidarita experienced a split during its move towards left communism: a minority left the group (around 2001) to form the mentioned aka (anarchist communist alternative) which exists till today. the product of people who rested is kpk.
Jan 25 2007 10:59
#6
Devrim wrote:
Maybe I will ask one of the Czechs to write a very brief summary of the diferent groups, and their history.
That would be a good accompaniment to the more wide-ranging history we have, written by a CSAF person I believe
1419-today: Czech anarchism
Jan 25 2007 17:15
#7
yes, this article was written by a guy from a-kontra magazine (and former member of csaf, i don´t know if he was still in csaf in time when that article was written); i think the original czech version of it mentioned briefly also the trajectory of particular groups in 90s and after 2000... unfortunatelly have no time to find it.
Jan 25 2007 17:38
#8
Apparently some anarchists wear the hammer and sickle.STUPID CUNTS!
Jan 25 2007 17:58
#9
Tim wrote:
Apparently some anarchists wear the hammer and sickle.STUPID CUNTS!
Red anarchist action network (RAAN)
Jan 25 2007 18:39
#10
Tim wrote:
Apparently some anarchists wear the hammer and sickle.STUPID CUNTS!
Great contribution. Some anarchists wear worse things.
Jan 25 2007 19:47
#11
Tim wrote:
Apparently some anarchists wear the hammer and sickle.STUPID CUNTS!
Its an amazing symbol, but the Tim has a point.
EDIT: sorry i had no idea what that was in reference to; no i wouldn't immiediately dismiss people in former Soviet countries out of hand for wearing it.
Jan 25 2007 21:29
#12
It is not often that I find myself ageeing with the Platformists, but on this one 'Guydebord...' is exactly right. 'Guy...' asked a question, and some people (myself, Sam, Ned, and Guardia) tried to answer it. I hope that the information answered your original question 'Guy'.
Then in comes someone with nothing relevant to say who wants to express his dislike of the hammer and sickle. It is interesting that he doesn't even ask the Czech comrade who posted (guardia)about why they use it. Maybe that could have developed into an interesting discussion about how anarchists in the old 'eastern Block' relate to the idea of 'communism' and the old regime, maybe. However, just slaging people off as 'stupid cunts' to me seems at best a bit pathetic, and of no help to anyone.
Devrim
Jan 26 2007 08:58
#13
to tell the truth i didn´t react to this
Quote:
Apparently some anarchists wear the hammer and sickle.STUPID CUNTS!
because i didn´t understand what that statement should refer to... aka have one sticker with a fist destroying sickle and hammer, i found it on their website, but neither group i belong to (kpk) nor mentined anarchist groups use sickle and hammer symbol so i ignored that statement as non-relevant.
Jan 26 2007 13:33
#14
Devrim wrote:
It is not often that I find myself ageeing with the Platformists, but on this one 'Guydebord...' is exactly right. 'Guy...' asked a question, and some people (myself, Sam, Ned, and Guardia) tried to answer it. I hope that the information answered your original question 'Guy'.
Yeh, Cheers Dev. Quite interesting, might see if WSM still has contact with any Czechs as there's quite a large population of them in Dublin, they've even taken over the best and most anarchist-friendly nightclub in the city.
I don't know. I was given quite a detailed run down on the splits in the Czech anarchist movement the other day, and I don't remember this group being mentioned (it was in the pub after a long meeting though). I can find out on Saturday, maybe before even.
Devrim