Do You Really Believe in the Revolution?

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Apr 20 2011 04:16
Do You Really Believe in the Revolution?

Dear Comrades,

I feel myself having a lack of faith. Not faith in a deity, but faith in the revolution. I remember some passages from Age of Dinosaurs, and I'm paraphrasing a lot here (but they said I could do that): “the word anarchy is more than just a dream or a way of life, it is what gives us hope when we've lost everything, its what warms our hearts on the coldest nights and gives us the strength to fight on.” This has been true for me for some time now. Unfortunately, I find my resolve weakening of late. While I feel the desire for freedom and I feel that a fair and happy world is within reach, the rational side of my brain, the side that has been programmed by television and textbooks and abusive teachers with slogans like - “life's not fair, get used to it,” and “I don't care how bad you feel, suck it up and get to work,” and “No one likes to work, but everyone's gotta do it,” and of course, “utopia is impossible so why bother trying,” - is telling me precisely that.

I am facing an internal conflict that is not allowing me to do any sort of productive activity. I find it extremely difficult to work because the right side of my brain is telling me, to quote Bob Black, “Work is the source of nearly all misery in the world” (as well as grieving the loss of my childhood) and the left side isn't allowing me do do revolutionary activity because it doesn't think it will ever make a difference.

This is a big problem, one because I have to make enough money to feed myself and take care of my sick mom and two because I really want to be out there actively fixing the world.

I know I'm not the first person to struggle with this exact same conflict, and I certainly wont be the last. Class struggle is emotionally devastating, obviously, most of us are anarchists because our lives have gone horribly wrong. I never had a real family – only a negligent father who stole everything from his wife and son. Naturally my belief in anarchy stems from a desire to have a family, a big one - the size of a whole community. It comes from a desire to have friends, neighbors and even complete strangers who I can trust and love and who can give me emotional support when I need it and me give it to them when they need it. It comes from a desire to be a child again and not be forced to work on a schedule. Our lives are traumatic and while we can put aside our emotions to get things done, if you do it for too long it damages you, mentally and physically. Which is exactly what They want.

For many of us, our only contact with the anarchist community is through forums like this one. And even though many of us will never meet face to face, it may still be extremely beneficial to the health of members of this community, as well as the strength of the community, to have an electronic shoulder to cry on.

But back to my original question. Is it possible that there is some truth in another one of those cliches? I am starting to think that everyone does need a little faith. What, other than a raw, unbridled belief in the righteousness of our cause and the belief that one day we will be free, can give us hope on those cold and lonely nights. I am a skeptic by upbringing so I don’t even really understand how someone could believe in something thoroughly and intrinsically down to the very core of their being and I never had a need to do it myself. But now that skepticism is challenging my desire for freedom and I need a means of silencing the doubt.

If anyone has any suggestions, I would love to hear them.

My Sincere Gratitude,
David

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Apr 20 2011 08:35

Hi there, just to say that this recent thread covers some of these topics, particularly the one around whether we believe a revolution will happen:
http://libcom.org/forums/general/assuming-we-lose-04042011

in short, I don't think it is likely in our lifetimes. But from a more long-term perspective, the Earth is going to be around for about another 5 billion years, and capitalism has only existed for a couple of hundred, so it would be foolish to assume it will always be here.

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Apr 20 2011 14:01

I read that thread first and it helped a little. But the problem is not simply one of logic, but emotion. I can construct a dozen rational arguments as to why or how anarchy will eventually come into existence. But a logical proof is one thing, Knowing is another. And I mean really knowing, like in Mortimer Adler's definition of Truth. Even in the very high likely hood that we are right, we will never know it in our lifetimes. Therefore I feel that we need something else to sustain the argument. Reason alone isnt always enough, at least not for me anymore.

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Apr 20 2011 14:26
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And I mean really knowing, ... Reason alone isnt always enough, at least not for me anymore.

You're on the wrong site, mate.

You should be on TruRel, not LibCom.

We're all going to hell. Especially those bastards who run the site.

Can you put in a good word for me? I was only lead astray - they put the ideas of 'reason' in my head.

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Apr 20 2011 15:02

Are you serious? and if so what is TruRel?

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Apr 21 2011 00:21

If working for the revolution is your purpose in life...you've got to find something better! Everything you do should be an end in itself, not a means to some distant goal. Otherwise, anarchism becomes an ideology like any other. In fact, the way you've put phrased it puts me in mind of an organized religion whose members are motivated by 'faith' in an afterlife.

"Whenever a system of ideas is structured with an abstraction at the centre — assigning a role or duties to you for its sake — this system is an ideology." - Revolutionary Self-Theory

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Apr 21 2011 00:11

Yeah, what's with that post, LBird? The OP is very well expressed, and it expresses what I imagine many of us feel from time to time (or perhaps all the time). Reason and logic are not everything. We can't deny the emotional side of the situation. Hope is very important for us, to keep us motivated, and going forward.

Don't be discouraged by LBird, RGBlack. What you have expressed above is a very real concern. There are no easy 'solutions'. Hope sometimes only comes with the arising of new class struggles, new militant activity, but sometimes these are few and far between. The internet and the connectivity it provides is definitely helpful, but it can't substitute for direct connections with other pro-revolutionaries working together on shared projects, or in a common organisation.

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Apr 21 2011 05:00
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Yeah, what's with that post, LBird? The OP is very well expressed, and it expresses what I imagine many of us feel from time to time (or perhaps all the time). Reason and logic are not everything. We can't deny the emotional side of the situation. Hope is very important for us, to keep us motivated, and going forward.

Belief? Faith? Hope? Righteousness? Emotion? Opposition to Logic and Reason?

Why not just make a good confession? Or burn a witch?

Bless me Father, it is two weeks since my last confession.

Yeah, three Hail Marys and two Our Fathers as penance will solve RGBlack's particular problems.

Now, back to Enlightenment Reason and the material class struggle...

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Apr 21 2011 06:04
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If working for the revolution is your purpose in life...you've got to find something better! Everything you do should be an end in itself, not a means to some distant goal. Otherwise, anarchism becomes an ideology like any other. In fact, the way you've put phrased it puts me in mind of an organized religion whose members are motivated by 'faith' in an afterlife.

"Whenever a system of ideas is structured with an abstraction at the centre — assigning a role or duties to you for its sake — this system is an ideology." - Revolutionary Self-Theory

+1 for this. Assisting class struggle has its payoff whether or not it takes you closer to revolution. Helping people gain a better price for their labour is a compassionate and wholely humanistic intervention within an economy in which people are otherwise treated as commodities.

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Apr 21 2011 06:33

The point surely is that humanity is faced with a choice, to borrow a phrase, between socialism and barbarism. We can't walk capitalisms tightrope of nuclear war and environmental degredation for all eternity, sooner or later we'll fall off. Logically capitalism won't last forever and it will either be replaced by anarchism or by barbarism.
With this in mind we may aswell organise in the hope taht there'll be a revolution,since the alternatives to said revolution are a) the ongoing slavery we see today and b) the collapse of civilisation.

I don't really get the point of lgbirds sneering enlightenment rationalism. IPersonally i agree with the OP that anarchism requires a little beleif and hope since even a cursory glance at history would suggest inequality and hierarchy are pretty dominant themes in human societies and changing a 10,000 year trend is s hsrd thing to do.

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Apr 22 2011 07:14
cantdocartwheels wrote:
I don't really get the point of lgbirds sneering enlightenment rationalism.

Well, seriously, I can see why you and waslax could justifiably criticise the tone and/or content of my posts to RGBlack, or could say that I seemed to leave no room for our all-too-human emotions, but to use 'enlightenment rationalism' as a term of condemnation leaves me bemused.

Surely we're all Enlightenment Rationalists on this site? Isn't that the very basis of Anarchist, Liberal, Marxist and Communist thought?

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May 4 2011 17:10
cantdocartwheels wrote:
The point surely is that humanity is faced with a choice, to borrow a phrase, between socialism and barbarism. We can't walk capitalisms tightrope of nuclear war and environmental degredation for all eternity, sooner or later we'll fall off. Logically capitalism won't last forever and it will either be replaced by anarchism or by barbarism.
With this in mind we may aswell organise in the hope taht there'll be a revolution,since the alternatives to said revolution are a) the ongoing slavery we see today and b) the collapse of civilisation.

Correct.

On a personal level though I would say you should put more effort into your personal well being at the moment, however you think is best to channel it. Even if the revolution is far off, if it is going to happen it requires that we do what we can now, but a broken revolutionary is no revolutionary at all. I would try to find what peace and security you can in this hell hole of a world before you worry about class struggle, the latter can wait.

Specifically, I would find a girlfriend / boyfriend (if you don't already have one). Mines the only thing thats kept me going.

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May 4 2011 23:16
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Surely we're all Enlightenment Rationalists on this site? Isn't that the very basis of Anarchist, Liberal, Marxist and Communist thought?

Surely the basis of Anarchist thought is our overwhelming desire for freedom and our empathy for each other?

I never got how Anarchism is supposed to emerge from materialism and reason; on their own they just lead to nihilism, for me anyway. I just want to be free and treated fairly, and I want everyone else to have the same, because there but for the grace of the imaginary unmentionable go I, and hopefully we can all just get on happily. I don't know why I have to appeal to some theory or other for that, which is the basis of my Anarchism. The theory is propaganda to overcome the indoctrination like "competition is natural", "there will always be winners and losers", etc., and to explain the systems of exploitation better so we can recognise and reject them.