Kämpa Tillsammans, who are they?
Aug 3 2008 15:17
#32
ronan: this discussion is intesresting. have you thought any further after kim's response?
Aug 3 2008 18:40
#33
For the German language readers at libcom–We are about to publish an article about SACs register method for non-documented workers in our SyndiKal 2009 pocket agenda that will be out by early september. We are translating the Kämpa Tillsammans text on the register into German right now and intend to make both texts into a booklet about "The register as a syndicalist tool" later this year. If someone should be interested in the German text about the register from the SyndiKal 2009, please pm me.
Aug 8 2008 10:06
#34
robot: Are there any unions that organize non-documented workers in Germany?
altemark and ronan: In this short text I write a bit about why we see the workplace struggle as so central and our strategical view on faceless resistance and self-activity "Självaktivitet, strategi och klassmakt" (Self-activitety, strategy and class power" - but it is not translated to any other language yet so its just in Swedish
http://kimmuller.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/sjalvaktivitet-strategi-och-klassmakt/
And for the scandinavians out there: an anthology with our writings will be released in the autumn/winter. Most of the stuff is already on our website but the book will also contain some of our older stuff that isn´t published on the internet yet.
Aug 8 2008 10:53
#35
hey kim, from where can I order that book? From you?
I can probably translate that article you linked to as it's pretty short (I am still working on the An Introdution to militant investigation as a method... it's just very very long). When I've finished with it I'll forward it to you.
Aug 8 2008 11:25
#36
Hi Khawaga, we don´t take orders for the book yet, but when it is finished I will put info up here. But if you send me a pm with your address I will send you a book for free, it´s the least I can do for all your help with translations.
It would be cool if you translated "självaktivitet,...", I think it could explain a few things that we haven´t said anything about. Someday soon there will also be an comment/short sequel on it.
Aug 8 2008 13:06
#37
Kim Müller wrote:
robot: Are there any unions that organize non-documented workers in Germany?
We habe a couple of non-documented in the FAU but in fact they are very few. No other union organizes non-documented workers. The situation in Germany seems to be quite different to Sweden. Non-documented people are not allowed to work and there are fines as well for the employer as for the worker, if the police, the financial police or the public security offices catch them. The normal way is that the workers will be deported to their country of origin or another one and thus will never get their wage and the boss is sentenced to pay a moderate fine. There even have been cases were the boss anonymously called the police because of the fine being much lower than the wage he had to pay to the (deported) workers. Nevertheless there is of course lots of non-documted workers around but they have very limited possibilties for bargaining, because they don't have any legal rights.
Aug 11 2008 18:30
#38
Yeah, it seems like it´s easier to deport the workers in Germany then, but when it comes to work, they really don´t have any legal rights either.
Anyway, some of the fight have been reported on and have been "open" (like blockades) but most of the work have been concealed so to speak, no officiel bargaining and so furth. More like saying - if you don´t raise the wages we will take actions that will hurt your economy (and not meaning blockades and stuff).
Sep 4 2008 14:14
#39
Quote:
altemark and ronan: In this short text I write a bit about why we see the workplace struggle as so central and our strategical view on faceless resistance and self-activity "Självaktivitet, strategi och klassmakt" (Self-activitety, strategy and class power" - but it is not translated to any other language yet so its just in Swedish
This text is now translated and in the library.
Sep 26 2008 16:33
#40
Kim> Are your group behind this reading/study group posted on Motkraft? Didn't say who was organizing it...
If so, do you need another participant? Couldn't come to the introduction due to another meeting with my local.
If not it seems your ideas are spreading...
Sep 28 2008 16:13
#41
Kattmannen - No, its not us. it´s people who was active in SAM - stockholms autonoma marxister a few years back, which I think have got some newly found interest to get into these studies (which sounds very interesting, but I am in completly different town so I can´t participate). I think that it is possible to still join the group.
Oct 3 2008 12:42
#42
Kattmannen: It is completely OK to join after the first meeting. The themes that are taken up are not really tied together in a way that makes it difficult to get into the studies. They are more like modules that can be handled individually if needed. So please join us!
At the first meeting we also saw this movie, which wildcat (DE) made available http://www.prol-position.net/nl/2007/08/marghera
Aug 10 2009 20:47
#43
For those interested of the radical swedish workers movement or Kämpa tillsammans! this interview might be interesting, and of course the blog which with the interview is made:
The interview -
http://kimmuller.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/notes-from-the-swedish-workers-movement-an-interview/
The blog Notes from the Swedish workers movement:
http://swedishzine.wordpress.com/
Aug 10 2009 21:41
#44
I should also add that an article about Kampa Tillsammans is forthcoming in the next (and first) issue of WSM's 'Ideas and Action' .
Kim, thank you very much for your response, I'm pleased to see that you don't take a 'knee jerk' anti union position in regards to the SAC as is the case with some groups. As for your second answer I'll have to think it over, but initially I think that this historical example doesn't give a fully satisfactory solution to the problem I posed. I'll think on it.
Thanks.