What is the most beautiful song that summarizes the libertarian-communist sentiment?

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Aug 8 2011 17:13

I like Dirty Old Town, as done by the Pogues. I don't know about libertarian or communist, but it surely is sentimental smile. Anyway, I always think of Devrim (and hence communism) when I hear it.

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Aug 8 2011 22:34
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Killing in the name of - RATM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ

"Fuck you I won't do what you told me" summarizes the libertarian-communist sentiment beautifully in my opinion.

Whereas "Yes sir, I'll do what the central committee tells me" would be the left communist version.

I like the old anarchist and wobbly songs and MDC have their moments as far as more recent stuff goes.

I'm guessing a left-commie ran off with your wife or killed your dog or something because just about the only stuff you ever post here is a slag off of the ICC specifically or left-commies in general.

No, it's just a hobby of mine, I even post about serious stuff sometimes. But do please tell me how much you're inspired by Lenin, I like a laugh.

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Aug 8 2011 22:51
jura wrote:
I like Dirty Old Town, as done by the Pogues. I don't know about libertarian or communist, but it surely is sentimental smile. Anyway, I always think of Devrim (and hence communism) when I hear it.

That's a goose bump job for me, yes. My benchmark is goosebump, never fails. smile

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Aug 9 2011 01:26
nastyned wrote:
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nastyned wrote:
Leo wrote:
Killing in the name of - RATM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ

"Fuck you I won't do what you told me" summarizes the libertarian-communist sentiment beautifully in my opinion.

Whereas "Yes sir, I'll do what the central committee tells me" would be the left communist version.

I like the old anarchist and wobbly songs and MDC have their moments as far as more recent stuff goes.

I'm guessing a left-commie ran off with your wife or killed your dog or something because just about the only stuff you ever post here is a slag off of the ICC specifically or left-commies in general.

No, it's just a hobby of mine, I even post about serious stuff sometimes. But do please tell me how much you're inspired by Lenin, I like a laugh.

I'm not inspired by Lenin but I don't think he was a demon either.

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Aug 9 2011 11:51

Being an atheist I don't belive in demons but unlike left communists I don't think there's anything useful to learn from Lenin.

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Aug 10 2011 00:47
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Aug 10 2011 10:05
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I'm not inspired by Lenin but I don't think he was a demon either.

Being an atheist I don't belive in demons

You sure?

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Aug 12 2011 20:27
redsdisease wrote:

Now that you mention it, yes! I remember thinking along these lines when I first heard it, long before I knew that it was an ideology (or what an ideology even was.)

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Aug 12 2011 21:29

In terms of class analysis this is pretty dense

And this is clearly a song about the rejection of work, and gets extra points for the cockney accents wink

Tom Morello's effort

Compulsory hardcore tracks

And special mention for Cui Jian

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Aug 14 2011 15:26

Radiohead's "Electioneering" just for it's punky anti-capitalist, anti-voting (maybe?) stance.

"I will stop, I will stop at nothing
Say the right things when electioneering
I trust I can rely on your vote

When I go forwards, you go backwards
Somewhere we will meet

Riot shields, voodoo economics
It's just business, cattle prods, and the IMF
I trust I can rely on your vote."

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Aug 14 2011 16:05
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Also the most incredibly subversive performance of a socialist song ever is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiEAcZhqojk

Pete Seeger and Bruce Springsteen perform Woody Guthrie's classic 'This Land Is You Land' at Obama's inauguration, including the following lines (with slight variations):

"In the squares of the city, In the shadow of a steeple;
By the relief office, I'd seen my people.
As they stood there hungry, I stood there asking,
Is this land made for you and me?"

"There was a big high wall there that tried to stop me;
Sign was painted, it said private property;
But on the back side it didn't say nothing;
That side was made for you and me."

"Nobody living can ever stop me,
As I go walking that freedom highway;
Nobody living can ever make me turn back
This land was made for you and me."

This song also happens to be one of the most astonishing recuperated (in the situationist sense) pieces of music ever. It's basically a second american national anthem, whilst in intention being a harsh as fuck indictment of american class society in the 1918-1945 period with substantial communist content.

Just working my way through this thread (slowly) and this may have already been mentioned, but George fucking Bush used this as his fucking campaign song!

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Aug 14 2011 16:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJ26h_cBqQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ6G7qwjom4

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Aug 15 2011 07:53
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Aug 15 2011 08:09

Chilli Sauce:

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George fucking Bush used this as his fucking campaign song!

(about Guthrie's "This land is our land"). But I think he cut out the lines,

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"There was a big high wall there that tried to stop me;
Sign was painted, it said private property;
But on the back side it didn't say nothing;
That side was made for you and me."

Heard a funny version of this song at a party shortly after the Iraq war started, where the singers made the line "This land was made for you and me" come out of the mouths of the US military taking over Iraq.

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Aug 15 2011 10:51

Tracy Chapman’s ‘Revolution’ is a good song, though I seem to remember her as a cheer leader for Mrs. Thatcher. It reminds me of Barry McGuire laughing off the lyrics of his version of ‘Eve of Destruction’. Wasn’t it Frank Zappa who said, “We’re only in it for the money”?

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Aug 15 2011 14:43

best revolutionary song ever

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Aug 15 2011 16:43

How about this for a critique?

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Aug 15 2011 16:49

Elgar, Nimrod Variations....

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Aug 15 2011 19:02

If you're going to go into classical music (like Arbeiten's choice of Elgar, usually noted for his dreadful patriotic "Land of Hope and Glory"; don't know the Nimrod Variations) and purely instrumental music, then Chopin's Op.10 nr 12-Revolution 1830 is worth listening to: you can find it here in Wikipedia, next to "influences". He wrote it at the same time as the Polish November Uprising in 1830. After which he fled Poland. The piece ends with a strange "up" note, which makes you expect another. A friend said it was an indication that the revolution was unfinished.

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Aug 15 2011 21:56
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Tracy Chapman’s ‘Revolution’ is a good song, though I seem to remember her as a cheer leader for Mrs. Thatcher.

That seems strange.

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‘Eve of Destruction’

Symphony of destruction with 1,000,000 non racist techno vikings taking to the streets sounds about right.

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Aug 15 2011 22:20
Auld-bod wrote:
Tracy Chapman’s ‘Revolution’ is a good song, though I seem to remember her as a cheer leader for Mrs. Thatcher. It reminds me of Barry McGuire laughing off the lyrics of his version of ‘Eve of Destruction’. Wasn’t it Frank Zappa who said, “We’re only in it for the money”?

Yes, I liked Tracy Chapman, though I'm pretty sure she wasn't a Thatcher cheerleader. Joan Armatrading was though... similar vocal and guitar style, so room for confusion, perhaps.

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Aug 15 2011 23:35
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Turns out, it was staged

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Aug 16 2011 07:20

Apologies to all, especially Tracy Chapman, you are right Wellclose, I was confusing her with Joan Armatrading!

I wish I had a video to remind me of those rat bags who appeared on TV, turning on a large ‘Saturday Night at the London Palladium’ type carousel endorsing Thatcher. I think there was Adam Faith, Lulu…

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Aug 16 2011 08:33
Toms wrote:
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Turns out, it was staged

LIES!

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Sep 5 2011 18:44

Thoughts folks might find this interesting:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/163148/top-ten-labor-day-songs

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Sep 5 2011 21:08

Muse - Hysteria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTDwIN9oLvY

l dumb down and hope that
We will never see the truth around, so come on

Another promise, another scene, another
Package not to keep us trapped in greed with all the
Green belts wrapped around our minds and endless
Red tape to keep the truth confined, so come on

They will not force us
And they will stop degrading us
And they will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on

Interchanging mind control, come let the
Revolution take its toll, if you could
Flick a switch and open your third eye, you'd see that
We should never be afraid to die, so come on

Rise up and take the power back, it's time that
The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that
Their time is coming to an end, we have to
Unify and watch our flag ascend, so come on

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on

Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on

Hey, hey, hey, hey

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Sep 5 2011 21:21

this thread is a fucking joke, not a single mention of http://libcom.org/blog/techno-communism-poem-22082010
no wonder we don't have communism

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Sep 6 2011 16:29

a lie i once heard: "we're innocent until proved guilty"
but the truth is absurd
we're poor until proved rich
and the scales of justice are fixed by lying pigs

a plot of human terror unfolds behind the precinct door
to cage all the minorities, the immigrants and poor
next they'll hunt the handicapped, disabled blind and deaf
and what will all these piggies do, ha! when there's no one left

swat police in riot gear are bombing us tonight
an all our civil liberties will die by morning's light
while crooked politicians lie and rig the ballot book
we whitewash fake democracy and paint another coat

we'll keep you here to stay; you'll never get away
your property ain't mine, until your dying day
we'll crush your soul inside; there is no easy ride
the hotel's never free and the rooms are always occupied

nice of you to join us welcome to the prison age
financial quest for new frontiers to build a bigger cage
surplus populations growing all around the world
capital invests quick to cage these boys and girls

we'll bomb the police state, assassinate the magistrate
we'll go to every town and burn them fucking prisons down

we'll keep you here to stay; you'll never get away
your property and mine, until your dying day
the court pretenders fake, the judge is on the take
if you wanna find a cop you're gonna have to drag the lake

[spoken:]
capitalism creates such a division between the rich and the poor
that this surplus population is created
and "government" solution has been their containment for increasing petty offenses...

plot of human terror unfolds behind the precinct door
to cage all the minorities, the immigrants and poor
next they'll hunt the handicapped, disabled blind and deaf
and what will all these piggies do, ha! when there's no one left

we'll bomb the police state, assassinate the magistrate
we'll go to every town and burn them fucking prisons down
we'll bomb the police state, assassinate the magistrate
we'll go to every town and burn them fucking prisons down, down

(fucking pigs, fucking pigs,
war against the fucking pigs,
stab them with some dirty rigs,
bury them under dirt and twigs,
gotta hate that gang of fucking pigs.)

[Spoken:]
The function, of, that police action,
Those interventions in Central America and the Middle East,
The function is system sustaining.
It is to maintain that overall system.
And you don't look at the particular cost.
I can demonstrate to you that every single bank robbery,
That in every single case practically,
the cost of the police was more then the actual money
that the robbers took from the bank.
Does that mean, oh you see?
There's really no economic interest involved in it.
They're not protecting the banks!
The police are just doing this because they're on a power trip,
or they're macho, or uh they're control freaks.
That's why they do it. No! Of course it's an economic,
of course they're defending the banks.
Of course, because if they didn't stop that bank robbery, regardless of the cost,
This could jeopardize the entire banking system.
You see, there are people who believe that the function of the police is to fight crime.
And that's not true, the function of the police is social control,
and protection of property.

AHHH!

I am sick and tired and my money's always spent,
And though their jobs are killing me, their money pays my rent.
The fuel of world hate, although it's just a seed,
But when it grows and flowers, it becomes the world's greed!

Money for the rich, money for the fed,
God supplies the money and God supplies the dead!
And when yer dead and ready, "exploited" be thy name,
'Cause after you have money, things are never quite the same!

I don't care for money, and money's not for me,
The money fueled this empire and our racist history.
Although I'm forced to use it, the rules have all been set.
But life is not worth living when yer soul is in debt!

Money for the rich, money for the fed,
God supplies the money and God supplies the dead!
And when yer dead and ready, "exploited" be thy name,
'Cause after you have money, things are never quite the same!
Never quite the same!

AHHH!

MONEY KILLS!
MONEY RAPES!
MONEY LIES!
MONEY HATES!