'Jury of Honour' versus ICC

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mciver
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Aug 15 2010 22:51
'Jury of Honour' versus ICC

From Alf's post Post 226, Aug 8, 2010, thread http://libcom.org/forums/history-culture/communist-left-internationalist-anarchism-13072010?page=7

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We will answer your question, Cassady, and many of the other accusations thrown at us on this thread, elsewhere, and in our own time, because it is clearly impossible to deal seriously with these issues right here. And it is not relevant to a debate about the communist left and internationalist anarchism.

But your 'answers' have taken a bit long to come, don't you think, like around 30 disingenuous years, five of them on here. The ICC posts on Libcom since 2005 don't sound too fraternal, truthful or 'non-sectarian', re your sorry history against 'parasites' (for example, http://libcom.org/forums/thought/oh-yeah-take-that).

To save you further embarrassment, the ICC could help a 'Jury of Honour' with their enquiries. You've yourself described this retro-tradition rather slavishly, so perhaps it could be used to find out if the accusations against you are unfounded or not. For example, if you have virulently denounced ex-members and critics as police spies, provocateurs, adventurers, freemasons, in sum, parasites, if you organised hit squads to burgle people's homes, cut phone lines, hit ex-members, etc. If Marc Chirik & Cie had additional sinister intentions when they had the audacity, as Ingram states, of returning to a burgled home for 'a second bite of the cherry', on a night of November 1981 in London.

Email/pdf depositions could be requested from the incumbent and made available online, dealing with the various accusations against your cult. For example, from Chénier and others of the ex-L'ouvrier internationaliste, from R Weyden and Rowntree, ex-News of War & Revolution, ex-CBG, McIver, from JJ and various 'parasites' in France including Henri Simon from Echanges and Mouvement Communiste, from Cleishbotham and the ICT, from Internationalist Perspective, IFICC, the Círculo de comunistas internacionalistas in Argentina, etc. A shaman or medium for Chirik could be contacted, maybe you could organise the seances? If he's busy, how about his mentor Albert Treint (not further back, too spooky, who except Mikail pines for a drunken Felix!)?

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Aug 15 2010 02:15

Fuck 'em all. ICG is best irrelevant left-communist sect

mciver
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Aug 15 2010 10:11

Interesting, but for another thread: a competition among left-communist sects. Which is the best or most irrelevant one? We know which hasn't denied being as big as an Argentinosaurus. Winning prizes could be a bust of Felix D, a set of ICC 80s internal bulletins (with black marker deletions, like in FOIA releases), one-way ticket to Zeta R, a signed caricature of Bordiga by Bukharin, a stuffed Mancunian arthropod, more ideas welcome. Sectarian suggestions like wire cutters, crowbars and sledgehammers not welcome.

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Aug 16 2010 23:21

This thread had no effect, the ICC ignored helping a 'Jury of Honour' with their enquiries. This was predictable, the ICC rejected such a call by Chénier/L'ouvrier internationaliste in 1981.

More recently, this proposal was put forward by Ret Marut in late July of this year, and it was also ignored:

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Today, the members of the "ICC" present themselves to the whole world as the victims of our "policy of criticising Bolshevik opportunism towards libertarians" (and persist in demanding their integration/rehabilitation into our milieu). To put an end to all this din, we have made the decision to publicly require of the members of the ICC to attend a Jury of Honour of the proletarian political milieu, which could have all the elements enabling it to come to a conclusion about the cogency of our charges.

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"the workers' movement always considered Juries of Honour as being a weapon of defence of comminst militants and organisations communist." http://en.internationalism.org/icconline/jury_of_honour_01
"... calling a Court of Honour is part of the tradition of the workers’ movement. ... any militant, when he considers that he has been unjustly accused of faults that he has not committed, has the duty and responsibility to defend his honour as a communist militant, by appealing to a revolutionary tribunal.
Any militant who refuses to engage in such a public political confrontation can only con firm the validity of the accusations raised against him."
http://en.internationalism.org/icconline/jury_of_honour_02

The ICC would surely want to be judged by the standards it seeks to apply to others - if not, according to their own comradely logic this would 'only con firm the validity of the accusations raised against them'. ...

Ret Marut, Post 133, Jul 29 2010 http://libcom.org/forums/history-culture/communist-left-internationalist-anarchism-13072010?page=4

Their self-serving support for the 'Jury of Honour' has boomeranged: by their silence, the charges and accusations from various critics and 'parasites' have been confirmed.

However, I also agree with Jimmer:

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Maybe, but it's not on topic and for an irrelevant cult the ICC get far too much exposure on here.

Post 46, Aug 16 2010 ( Forums theory, thread on peter-lamborn-wilson-hakim-bey)

Regretfully, my posts have unwittingly added to this exposure. It was an unintended side effect, when grappling with broader issues than the self-cannibalism of a racket. Moreover, following the tenacious efforts of Ingram and others on these threads, there was the need to definitely nail the ICC's calumnies and debunk the pernicious falsification of 'parasitism'. Yet this 'theory' is alive as ever among the ICC egocrats, and will resurface in due course with added virulence. If not on these threads, somewhere else.