Hey there. So, um how did you find the site? Interesting username you have there.
Hello all
A friend recomended this site to me. As for my username, i have c18,bnp types calling me bogwog,fenianbitch and taig quite alot so i thought hell why not be proud of it:)
9181 stands for IRA, i originally used it to piss them off when posting on the Loyalist/C18 guestbook as they use 88,1488 alot so once again i thought ah what the hell.
Joseph K. wrote:
revol68 wrote:
And no I'm clearly not like that with everyone, was I like it with you?you just told him to "shut the fuck up"
Sorry, don't you grasp past tense?
Also i'm well aware of the types of fuckwits who reclaim words like taig and Fenian, they are more often than not nationalist twats playing on and seeking to take pride in their national "victimhood".
i did once 
(grasp the past tense, not be a nationalist fuckwit)
point taken, but there's no need to jump down a new poster's throat over a (perhaps misguided) part of his username that was put there to annoy racists. i'm no fan of the IRA but give the guy a chance ffs.
The poster is called ProudTaigIRA, and you expect them not to cop shit. I don't know if you realise that the IRA had a wee bombing campaign not so long ago. I suppouse if some came on here with the name Viva 7/7, which they'd been using to piss of the BNP, we'd have to give them a chance?
BTW why are you assuming it's a fella?
Sexist!
i know what you're saying, but the guy explained it was a (bad) joke ... if he supports the IRA then flame away, though it'd still be better to say why from a libcom perspective thats a shit idea.
and i say he cos writing "s/he" looks stupid and i like to economise on keystrokes
LOL no worries i get crap like that alot on Anti-Irish/pro loyalist guestbooks etc
I did however hear that this was a site where i'd find Sinn Fein sympathisers so i'm a little shocked. Why are you offended by the IRA? They were only fighting for a united socialist Eire whereas Loyalists are connected to Combat18 and other such groups.
My Grandfather and his two brothers were PIRA yet they were the most gentle chaps you could meet. So offence to the word IRA makes little sense to me unless you agree with the British/ulster scots occupation and butchery:?
And yes i'll fight secterianism with secterianism, they call me taig like the RC faith is something to be ashamed of, therfore i'll take that name to show the loyalist/c18 bastards that they have no fuel against me and that i'm not bothered about their out-dated insults. SFA!!
revol68 wrote:
Would that have stood for Viva 7/7 too?Why the fuck should I be polite to someone who doens't have the social tact to not use a bunch of murdering anti working class nationalist fuckwits for a username?
because people aren't fixed in their views, posters can be young or otherwise niave and its therefore stupid to write someone off on their username alone. many of the young muslims who may be tempted to glorify 7/7 are probably doing so because its the only visible 'resistance' to a lot of bad shit. you flaming people on such flimsy grounds can only confirm that impression.
yeah but it just seems to me that anarchists from outside North can afford to be rather more detached from this kind of shit, afterall I doubt a poster named Proud Paki Al-Qaeda would have got a more hostile reception than the one I gave.
Not that i'm suggesting English posters are some what lacking in perspective, or the London one's think you falloff the end of the world if you continue north after the NEC.
revol68 wrote:
Would that have stood for Viva 7/7 too?
And what if you had chosen "cuddlybunny" as a name? But you didn't, did you? He/she also, explained why. I'm not exactly fond of the IRA either, but you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. [OK, having seen PTs latest post, maybe revol was right, but I think he still could have been more polite about it!]
ProudTaig9181 wrote:
LOL no worries i get crap like that alot on Anti-Irish/pro loyalist guestbooks etc
I did however hear that this was a site where i'd find Sinn Fein sympathisers so i'm a little shocked. Why are you offended by the IRA? They were only fighting for a united socialist Eire whereas Loyalists are connected to Combat18 and other such groups.
My Grandfather and his two brothers were PIRA yet they were the most gentle chaps you could meet. So offence to the word IRA makes little sense to me unless you agree with the British/ulster scots occupation and butchery:?
And yes i'll fight secterianism with secterianism, they call me taig like the RC faith is something to be ashamed of, therfore i'll take that name to show the loyalist/c18 bastards that they have no fuel against me and that i'm not bothered about their out-dated insults. SFA!!
Let's see, I might be someone offended cos the IRA carried out bombings of civilians, were a major factor in the sprial into sectarian violence, blew up english and protestant pubs, shot working class prods and have an ideology based on reactionary nationalism.
And Roman Catholicism is something to be ashamed of, it has a history that would make Hitler blush.
If your on a wind up, tres bien, you got me, if your not, I'm guessing your some gobshite from outside northern ireland, and whose only interaction with loyalists is through message boards.
revol68 wrote:
Not that i'm suggesting English posters are some what lacking in perspective, or the London one's think you falloff the end of the world if you continue north after the NEC.
revol you are the reason a lot of people i know still won't post on libcom, the fact that your hostility seems merited now that the guy's actually posted some of his views doesn't change that, attack the ideas not the man.
i mean by all means hold people to account and ask them to explain themselves, but going straight into histrionics at the sight of a username is just childish. don't get me wrong, i like you and you have a lot of intelligent things to say but you tend to flame first and flame questioners later.
Nemo wrote:
revol68 wrote:
Would that have stood for Viva 7/7 too?And what if you had chosen "cuddlybunny" as a name? But you didn't, did you? He/she also, explained why. I'm not exactly fond of the IRA either, but you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. [OK, having seen PTs latest post, maybe revol was right, but I think he still could have been more polite about it!]
And maybe it's easier to be polite about it when your not surrounded by reactionary gobshites spouting this shit, when your walk home from work doesn't entail seeing graffiti advocating killing all huns, or posters proclaiming SinnFein as a revolutionary party.
To be perfectly honest The Antifa635 stress we must use any means inc violence to wipe out fascists...so thats ok? But if the IRA use violence to try to free our opressed people it's a bad thing?
You know what it's pretty bad craic on here. Ye are talking to me the way Combat18 ejits speak to me and other SFA that visit their guestbooks/meetings. Dont tar me with the whole 'poor irish nationalist' brush as we more than welcome people of diff religion,race etc to our shores we just dont appreciate being colonized.
I apologise if i have caused ye offence but you should explain rather than jump down my throat. I'm usually on SF forums so my name gets taken as a middle finger up to c18 usually and alot of other Republicans find it funny.
Once again i apologise.
revol68 wrote:
And maybe it's easier to be polite about it when your not surrounded by reactionary gobshites spouting this shit, when your walk home from work doesn't entail seeing graffiti advocating killing all huns, or posters proclaiming SinnFein as a revolutionary party.
you realise you're claiming a right to irrational anger because of proximity? is that not the mindset of spirals of violence (or flaming in your case)?
Yeah, of course, you're in NI and you have to deal with the consequences of reactionary 'left' nationalist crap much more directly than others, but like i say attack the ideas and don't go all ad hominem
Joseph K. wrote:
revol68 wrote:
Not that i'm suggesting English posters are some what lacking in perspective, or the London one's think you falloff the end of the world if you continue north after the NEC.revol you are the reason a lot of people i know still won't post on libcom, the fact that your hostility seems merited now that the guy's actually posted some of his views doesn't change that, attack the ideas not the man.
i mean by all means hold people to account and ask them to explain themselves, but going straight into histrionics at the sight of a username is just childish. don't get me wrong, i like you and you have a lot of intelligent things to say but you tend to flame first and flame questioners later.
Well no, I held back from commenting on the posters name until they announced that the numbers were in reference to the IRA. So i think that's pretty much a clue as to the persons politics. I've grown up with wankers like this, I've known people givin kickings by arseholes like this. I've seen what this sectarian tit for tat has done to create ghetto's.
Sectarianism is something that plays itself out very much on a symbolic level, in coded names, tags and absences, and it's something that may look like paranoid overreaction to those outside, but it's far from it.
ProudTaig9181 wrote:
I apologise if i have caused ye offence but you should explain rather than jump down my throat.
libertarian communists see sectarian violence as part of the problem not a solution, and advocate class-based organisation and solidarity, not murder of other workers because of their religion/culture/part of town they live in/pub they drink in etc.
libertarian communists aren't pacifists (though some might be), and aren't opposed to militancy, properly directed. We tend to shun fetishised or gratuitous violence though.
PT wrote
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I did however hear that this was a site where i'd find Sinn Fein sympathisers
Oh man that's funny. Did you know that this is an anarchist site? Either you're on a wind-up or you're the kind of guy who could sit through The Producers and come out thinking that it was pro-Hitler!
PT, why not walk out of the door, change your hat and come back in a few minutes later. You never know, if you can put up with Libcom for a while you might learn something..... not from me I hasten to add, but there are a few bright sparks around here from time to time.
revol68 wrote:
I've grown up with wankers like this, I've known people givin kickings by arseholes like this.
If you want to rid the world of these sorts of groups, revol, you could do worse than join them. They wouldn't get any new recruits with you there to greet them!
I find the comment about me having never come into contact with Loyalists very silly. We have had bricks through our windows,graffiti daubed on our walls and been attacked in the street for wearing an SFA badge or in the worst case a crucifix, do you know why that is? Because we live in a Protestant area so please dont tell me i know nothing etc.
And by the way i'm not a he i'm a she:o
The IRA were no more murderers than the RUC or the SAS and due to my upbringing and and from what i've witnessed in the past my opinion wont change on that one.
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