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in which case read some zizek while on an excercise bike, covers all bases that way wink

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Joseph K. wrote:
in which case read some zizek while on an excercise bike, covers all bases that way ;)

I think there might be more important things to read.

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i'd be shocked if there wasn't. alright, a volume of capital of your choice

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Joseph K. wrote:
i'd be shocked if there wasn't. alright, a volume of capital of your choice

I think there's someone at the door. I'll be back later.

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Potentiality is a tricky concept as it really only exists in the abstract. And then it doesn't really exist at all. For something to happen parameters have to be set, in order for that to happen potentiality has to be, to our eyes of course, limited

hand I don't think that teology has anything to do with limitless numbers of outcomes.

smile

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Joseph K: You seem to be saying that terror would be counter-revolutionary now because of the situation. Would you say the same about the 30s (when Huamnism and terror, the book by Merleau-Ponty I was asking about was addressed to, more or less).

I think phenomenology of perception is ace. His descrition of time e.g. is really really good, imho.

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Joseph K: You seem to be saying that terror would be counter-revolutionary now because of the situation. Would you say the same about the 30s

no i'm pretty much making a transhistorical statement of the general counter-revolutionary nature of terror. We want a free libertarian society, its impossible to terrorise people into it - propaganda by the deed was counterproductive, the Bolsheviks were counter-revolutionary. I haven't read the book but it would take an astonishingly good argument to make me accept that terror has anything to do with libertarian revolution.

Just a quick note; by 'terror' i'm talking about coercive violence aimed at the general civilian population or any sector of it, including the bourgeoisie in anything that is designed to scare/persuade them into handing over control rather than seizing and defending the means of production directly.

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lem wrote:
jef costello wrote:
Potentiality is a tricky concept as it really only exists in the abstract. And then it doesn't really exist at all. For something to happen parameters have to be set, in order for that to happen potentiality has to be, to our eyes of course, limited

hand I don't think that teology has anything to do with limitless numbers of outcomes.

:)

I don't understand.

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Then I could not have understood what you wrote. Soory :grim:

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So, Merleau-Ponty's conception of history is basically that becuase we are social creatures, we have a common conception of humanity, derived in part from history up to now. History is created by our actions, but the solutions with which we create history are derived from our conception of humanity. It is similar to (at least his interpretation of) Lukacs.

Erm, has anyone got anything better smile

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Also, it would be good, to read something about how interests are constituted, in... struggle

I know its a bit lame to use this resource to do one's homework, but, is anyone anal enough to know what the relation between interests constituted in struggle and alienation is?

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fuck me what Uni are you at? I mean what sort of vague question is that to set you?

I mean in relation to what context, on what terms?

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In terms of explicating Marx's influences in his concept of alienation. Beyond that I think I can choose my own context/terms, if you mean what kind of interpretation smile

Eta: I'm a biut lost at the moment cos I don't have about 6 months of notes.

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I don't know what your on about, I mean you could look at Hegels master/slave thesis, or you could look at the concrete struggle of workers in his time. His idea of species being etc.

You really baffle me.

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Lol.

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They wouldn't let me write a dissertaion on the similarities between illness and alienation. Ha!

Anyway, I amswered their question as "something about shared experiences".