OK OK i admit it... [Situationist Thought]

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ftony
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Jan 7 2005 10:16
OK OK i admit it... [Situationist Thought]

so basically, i'm not that hot on theory and stuff, and i kee on hearing about situationism. i've looked around the net, but can't find any basic definitions of it.

any chance of some help?

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Steven.
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Jan 7 2005 10:34

http://enrager.net/thought/ideas/situationism/

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Jacques Roux
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Jan 7 2005 13:00

Man someone needs to improve that page... eek

ftony
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Jan 7 2005 14:40

cool, thanks kids

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Jan 7 2005 15:35

Uhh? What happened to the post after mine citing situationist.cjb.net etc....

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Jan 8 2005 02:02
rkn wrote:
Uhh? What happened to the post after mine citing situationist.cjb.net etc....

realised there was a link to it or something similar in the enrager thing anyway

Joe Hill
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Jan 10 2005 00:52

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Caiman del Barrio
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Jan 10 2005 12:13

That Karen Elliot article talks of "Debord's scorn for anarchists". Someone elaborate please....

I've never actually read any Debord but I always understood Situationism to be quite libertarian.

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Jan 10 2005 18:29

It is very libertarian yes.

I remember of the anarchists, Debord said they were shite because "that they would tolerate each other shows they will tolerate anything"

grin

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Feb 26 2005 20:38

When I first discovered the Situationists the only advice I got from others was read Debord and Vaneigem.But to many (including me)Debord's 'Society of the Spectacle' on a first read seems impenetrable.My advice to anyone interested in attempting to get to grips with their stuff is to get hold of some basic stuff on Marx-especially his ideas on alienation and Commodity fetishism. Jonathan Wolff is good at explaining such things in a straightforward way

;you could try his book 'Why read Marx today?'

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Feb 28 2005 17:15

With a basic understanding of marx the situationists writings become far clearer, try getting a copy of The Situationist Anthology by ken Knabb but if you cant go here http://www.bopsecrets.org

Once youve grasped the basics of dialectics, class struggle and fetishism (not as awkward as the terminology suggests) then there stuff becomes more than just attractive polemic and makes far more sense. Keep reading.

dash-of-lime
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Mar 20 2005 17:05

I'd recommend the Larry Law pamphlets for a first introduction. They give you the basic feel for what the spectacle is. They are also short, witty and have pictures

thaw
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Mar 20 2005 23:18

Yes, read more Marx!!