weren't they just cartoon characters?
Question on Kronstadt Kids
Dave
Looking back at my old issues of World Revolution, in no 20 (October 78) it says "In a forthcoming issue of WR, we will publish another leaflet which attacks the ANL from a revolutionary standpoint 'The ANL, the Left, and a Labyrinth of Conformity', produced by a group calling itself 'Kronstadt Kids'."
I think it was published in WR 21, but the issue seems to be missing from my collection. However, if you're interested, I could track it down.
Hi Alf, if you could find it it would be great . The ICC do not have a section in Australia any more ( he converted to Islam) so it would be nigh on impossible to get a copy here. I came across a reference to Kronstadt Kids in a paper on the conference of socialist economists website in around 2000-2001. It seemed to identify them as autonomist ( or maybe autonomia influenced) elements that then went into Class War
cheers
Dave
Dave Antagonism wrote:
Hi Alf, if you could find it it would be great . The ICC do not have a section in Australia any more ( he converted to Islam) so it would be nigh on impossible to get a copy here. I came across a reference to Kronstadt Kids in a paper on the conference of socialist economists website in around 2000-2001. It seemed to identify them as autonomist ( or maybe autonomia influenced) elements that then went into Class Warcheers
Dave
Suppouse he wanted something with abit more flexibility, and afterall the Mohammed is alot more epic than Bordiga. 
There are numerous ways in which bourgeois society can destroy revolutionary militants. In today's irrational times, religion is one. But so far parasitism has been far more destructive.
Back to Kronstadt Kids. Dave I have tracked down the issue and will get the article put into electronic format. You could send your e-mail address to uk@internationalism.org and we will send it.
We were in contact with a couple of the people in Kronstadt Kids for some years after this, although I'm not sure where they are now.
Hi Dave Antag,
among the main members of Kronstadt Kids was one person who recently hit another person over the head with an iron bar, causing him to receive hospital treatment, in the context of a division which had taken place in the London anti-glob scene. The victim of this attack also hung out with KK, although I don't recall whether or not he was a member. Another person, who was a member, had a garish choice of fake surname, and went off up north, last I heard. All of these three people then became involved in CW.
I would strongly advise against taking what the ICC said about KK as being wholly reliable, although of course their publications are as useful as any, for chasing up docs etc.
The ICC once accused me in their snoozepaper of having inherited the 'legacy' of 'Pour une Intervention Communiste' - a Paris-based group with GS as its leading light. (I don't recall the exact issue, and in case anyone asks, I am not prepared to dig through the files to find it! Would have been somewhere early-mid 1980s)
Re. KK, you may also be interested in the Monday Group, which relates to KK.
Just in case anyone cares a hoot, I should say - I did not belong to any of the groups mentioned above.
zobag wrote:
bbbbb wrote:
All of these three people then became involved in CW.Class War are amazing 8)
I came across their current incarnation recently in the form of a grubby sticker encouraging shoppers to buy cigarettes on the black market, and thereby avoid paying tax.
The phrase 'how stupid can they get?' comes to mind.
Dunno what fags people smoke on 'Eastenders'.
When running CW, bonehead was also involved coming up with biz ideas with Cynthia Payne. Maybe the question 'how stupid can followers get?' is more apt.
Out of interest, who wrote the version of the IB novel containing the stuff about the 'Cancer Liberation Front'? It's on the ball in very many ways, but it's much too tasteless for me, and I don't condone mocking illnesses. Was it done by who I suspect?
And is there actually a genuine IB novel of that name, that this is a piss-take of?
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AnarchoAl wrote:
I know very few of the acronyms in this thread.ICC is, I guess, some marxist group. International Communist Something?
International Communist Current - left communists, post on here,
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GS is...?
no clue
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IB is...?
Maybe Class War founder Ian Bone?
I just came across this thread recently.
GS is Guy Sabatier, who published Traité de Brest-Litovsk 1918, coup d'arręt de la révolution - Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, Death Blow to the Revolution - in 1983.
The Kronstadt Kids was a name used on a leaflet, and did not go further than that. There was another leaflet put out in the name of the London Autonomists by the same people before they went into Class War. Half of them left CW in 1985, dissatisfied with the drift back to anarchism partricularly developed by IB. 
Hi All
i sometimes come across the name of this supposed late 1970s London anarcho/autonomist grouping. Does any one have any more details about them or know where i can find some writtings?
cheers
Dave