Whats the best thing anarchists could do?

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anna_key
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Oct 1 2004 15:27
Whats the best thing anarchists could do?

if u could do anything, suddenly anything was possible what would u do What do u think would be the biggest thing u could do 2 promote anarchism -if u could do anything. I no its kind of a vague question. u can answer it or make fun out of it whatever.

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Oct 1 2004 15:29

I would rewild by attending primitive survivalist gatherings and learn how to survive in the wild. I'd learn things like hunting and foraging. I'd learn how to cut open animals and tan their hides with their brains. I'd eat roadkill, etc.

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Oct 1 2004 15:44

Invite a time machine, strangle the Bolsheviks at birth, and watch history turn out very differently..........

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Oct 1 2004 15:55

We could take over the mass media and propogate the revolution black bloc Mr. T

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Oct 1 2004 21:32

Wipe out everybody and hope the next lot don't fall into the same evil temptations.

red n black star

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Oct 2 2004 00:48
LeonardfromLeominster wrote:
Invite a time machine, strangle the Bolsheviks at birth, and watch history turn out very differently..........

Not much would have changed

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Oct 2 2004 15:27

convince people to make less babies.

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Oct 2 2004 17:17

I hope primitivism is hereditary, then at least we won't have to deal with it for more than a generation.

desertR
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Oct 2 2004 17:32

Practice what we preach in our personal lives and people will respect us.

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Oct 2 2004 17:33
redyred wrote:
I hope primitivism is hereditary, then at least we won't have to deal with it for more than a generation.

i hope corny jokes aren't communicable 'cause i sure don't want that lousy humor to spread

redyred
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Oct 2 2004 17:58

You're making progress Username. You've already unlearned sense of humour and arguing a valid point. Surely language can't be far off.

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Oct 2 2004 18:01

This week my eyes have been opened. I'd have to go with 'eat roadkill' too.

Yrwenot3?
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Oct 2 2004 19:01

death to all lifestylers and keyboard jockeys - then I think people might get a taste of real anarchism

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Oct 2 2004 19:15

there's no such thing as a "lifestyler". it's Bookchin's fabrication for his critiques during last century.

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Oct 2 2004 19:48
Yrwenot3? wrote:
death to all lifestylers and keyboard jockeys - then I think people might get a taste of real anarchism

Yrwenot3 I think you must have a different definition of lifestylism than everyone else, cos not wanting to be rude your politics appear to be pretty lifestylist. Which is fair enough in itself but then I'm not calling for all of their deaths am I?

And what's a keyboard jockey? Someone who talks crap on the net? confused

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Oct 8 2004 12:34
anna_key wrote:
if u could do anything, suddenly anything was possible what would u do What do u think would be the biggest thing u could do 2 promote anarchism -if u could do anything.

Manipulate the stock markert.

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Oct 8 2004 17:50
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George'sBush wrote:
And what's a keyboard jockey? Someone who talks crap on the net? confused

I like to assume it's someone who copulates with keyboards.

And says "tally ho!" whilst doing it.

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Oct 11 2004 12:52

out of curiousity, what would you do (i.e. what should an anarchist do) if you suddenly came into a massive sum of money - lets say 10 million quid? Insert whatever virtually impossible hypothetical circumstance you like for the details - e.g. lottery rollover, distant relative's willl, etc, etc...

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Oct 11 2004 13:26

Buy a full blown printing press and set up a worker's co-op (that can do plush paperbacks, newspapers etc.), as an investment for the circulation of ideas and also to support the movement financially in the future. (That works quite well for the SWP!)

The press would have the ethos of extremely cheap publishing so that the ideas are accessible to everyone. Radical books should be cheap.

I'd probably buy my mum a house, and repair my Gran's plumbing, too. And pay off a friend's mortgage. Set up a housing co-op to live in. Have some kind of fund for the setting up of anarchist groups to help pay for incidental costs. Send money abroad to support anarchists in developing countries, and the ABC. Buy some land to hold regular anarchist festival

and conferences on.

I think the chance of me ever having any money like this is approximately nil.

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Oct 11 2004 13:34

ooh-hoo this sounds like a new thread... will start one in General 8)

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Nov 23 2004 20:14
LeonardfromLeominster wrote:
Invite a time machine, strangle the Bolsheviks at birth, and watch history turn out very differently..........

Oh man! That would be so fab. Maybie such drastic measures wouldnt be needed tough. Some timetravel would just need to burn Karl Marxs passport so that he wouldnt be able to move the first internationale to New york to run away from Bakunin. Then Bakunin would enter the stage and win over the whole internationale with his passion and charisma(just as Marxl feared). A true revolution of the masses would follow instead of a revolution forced onto the russians by a minority of bolscheviks the whole dictatorship of the proleteriat would newer exist and russia and soon the whole world would move directly to anarchy instead.

Sweet! grin

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Nov 23 2004 20:20

No

Wendal
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Nov 23 2004 23:18

Since Marxs who is a clever bloke was ready to take the first internationale across the Atlantic just to be sure that Bakunin wouldnt win it over then it would mean that if they never got to New york then the first internationale might have turned into an anarchist organization and the russian revolution might have turned russia and later the whole world into anarchy(in the words most positive meaning. smile ) instead of authorian state communism. The process might even have lead to that Marxs would leave his new authorian ideas and go back to his libertian roots. The huge amount of proudhonists in the internationale would enlighten the rest.

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...What, by combining it with petit-bourgeois adventurism and egoist individualism?

Bakunin and Marx were diferent in many ways.

Marx was a son of a lawyer who later studied at expensive universitities

Bakunin was an autodidactic son of a farmer

Marx became authorian and anti-anarchistic after he had his emmancipation from the teachings of proudhon

Bakunin was an anarchist

Marx wrote books and manifestos

Bakunin fought together with the people in the streets

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Nov 24 2004 03:11

Hang out in squats and do ketamines. Grow dreadlocks (ie don't wash). Go to raves maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

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Nov 24 2004 13:24

It's typical Marxist bollocks (repeated by his followers and a thousand academics) to say Bakunin was clueless. If you try reading a sympathetic account of Bakunin's thought, rather than the many hatchet jobs out there, you might be pleasantly surprised.

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Nov 24 2004 13:55

A bit of crime is always a good idea - anything from an act of petty vandalism to mindless thuggery and hoodlumism. It doesn't need a social context - the act liberates, and fuck the passers-by for failing to get out of the way. Some wee small victory every day or every other day is as good as a Reservoir Dogs-Bonnot Gang-type trail of useful destruction, oops I'm mixing fantasy and reality again on the internet!

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Nov 24 2004 14:29
Dr Souvarine wrote:
It doesn't need a social context - the act liberates, and fuck the passers-by for failing to get out of the way.....oops I'm mixing fantasy and reality again on the internet!

so was the above bit serious eek

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Nov 24 2004 16:10
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Bakunin was the son of an aristocratic Russian officier if i remember correctly!

You are right. It was Proudhon who was the son of a farmer, sorry about that.