Distribute Workers Solidarity 102- Newspaper of Anarchists in Ulster

Bobby
Posts: 503 Joined: 22-09-05
Submitted by Bobby on 7 April, 2008 - 18:08.

If anyone would like to distribute the paper in their area, workplace and community. Please get in touch with
Belfast WSM
belfastwsm@yahoo.com
07928479308

Link to articles
http://www.wsm.ie/story/3679

Front cover of Ulster edition
http://www.wsm.ie/attachments/apr2008/ws102_ulster.jpg

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the button "jesus christ, john, have you actually even read any marx?"
Posts: 5636 Joined: 07-07-04 Location: Lewisham, London
7 April, 2008 - 21:42

"bend over for the bosses and wait for the trickle-down effect"

Is that an intentional extended metaphor? eek

Boulcolonialboy "the clear concrete"
Posts: 1541 Joined: 02-10-04 Location: Belfast
7 April, 2008 - 21:47

grin

Classy stuff wink

This 'Ulster' thing doesn't quite sit right if you ask me, wudda loved to have been a fly on the wall at the discussion that was had about that.

Bobby
Posts: 503 Joined: 22-09-05
7 April, 2008 - 21:51

It fits ok with an organisation that has branches north and south which helps, and 'ulster' has is used and abused by both communities in the wee north. We also intend to distribute outside belfast.

Boulcolonialboy "the clear concrete"
Posts: 1541 Joined: 02-10-04 Location: Belfast
7 April, 2008 - 22:13

I think comrade that you under-estimate the association of the term 'Ulster' with unionism and loyalism and this may potentially do you a dis-service. First impressions are important, and most first impressions of the 'Anarchists in Ulster' bit was incredulous disbelief (thats from a range of people who have seen your bulletin).

Um, can I ask a serious question?

How can the 'Ulster' claim to be issue 102 of when its the first publication of its kind for the region? Issue 1 surely?

It has a snazzy lay-out (to be expected) but the journalistic content isn't great. I've already expressed my reservations about the article on Republicanism.

Having said that I'm sure it will improve over time and I wish ye all well with it.

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
Posts: 9285 Joined: 09-12-04 Location: Belfast
7 April, 2008 - 22:41

For Anarchy and Ulster!

the button "jesus christ, john, have you actually even read any marx?"
Posts: 5636 Joined: 07-07-04 Location: Lewisham, London
7 April, 2008 - 22:43

The mask my father wore. black bloc

the button "jesus christ, john, have you actually even read any marx?"
Posts: 5636 Joined: 07-07-04 Location: Lewisham, London
7 April, 2008 - 22:47

Sure l'm an Ulster Anarchist, from Erin's isle I came,
To see my International of honour and of fame,
And to tell them of my forefathers who fought in days of yore,
That I might have the right to wear, the mask my father wore!

It is old but it is beautiful, and its colour it is fine
It was worn at Kronstadt, Aughrim, Barcelona and the Boyne.
My father wore it as a youth in bygone days of yore,
And on May Day I love to wear the mask my father wore.

the button "jesus christ, john, have you actually even read any marx?"
Posts: 5636 Joined: 07-07-04 Location: Lewisham, London
7 April, 2008 - 22:51

Actually, that's quite good. There's a round of drinks in it if any of the Irish contingent sing that at the London Anarchist Bookfair next year.

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
Posts: 9285 Joined: 09-12-04 Location: Belfast
7 April, 2008 - 23:01

Tell you what Button, I'll do it if you buy me dinner.

the button "jesus christ, john, have you actually even read any marx?"
Posts: 5636 Joined: 07-07-04 Location: Lewisham, London
7 April, 2008 - 23:03

You'll have a bag of crisps with your coke, and like it. angry

jack white
Posts: 319 Joined: 07-04-05 Location: Dublin, Ireland
7 April, 2008 - 23:05

Its an Ulster cover on the 'normal' Workers Solidarity - hence the numbering. Dunno if there's a need to change it or not. From working in libraries and archives I'd rather keep it at 102, 103 and so on. It can be quite hard to track publications through name changes, irregular numbering etc and the consistant numbering makes the relationship between both editions clear. Mind you thats a small enough aspect...

Bobby
Posts: 503 Joined: 22-09-05
7 April, 2008 - 23:07

exactly Jack

Weeler "The wind that shakes Nathan Barley"
Posts: 5677 Joined: 25-09-05 Location: Dublin
7 April, 2008 - 23:09

Surprised to see boul stick his oar in with petty criticisms. Shocked even. roll eyes

jack white
Posts: 319 Joined: 07-04-05 Location: Dublin, Ireland
7 April, 2008 - 23:16

edit the name ...

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
Posts: 9285 Joined: 09-12-04 Location: Belfast
7 April, 2008 - 23:45

yeah or else I'll tell everyone yours GDID

georgestapleton "an indistinguishable part of a nationalist front sticking up for Irish independence"
Posts: 1450 Joined: 04-08-05 Location: Dublin, Ireland
8 April, 2008 - 00:22
the button wrote:
Sure l'm an Ulster Anarchist, from Erin's isle I came,
To see my International of honour and of fame,
And to tell them of my forefathers who fought in days of yore,
That I might have the right to wear, the mask my father wore!

It is old but it is beautiful, and its colour it is fine
It was worn at Kronstadt, Aughrim, Barcelona and the Boyne.
My father wore it as a youth in bygone days of yore,
And on May Day I love to wear the mask my father wore.

At the 2005 london bookfair the WSM and a few other all went to some irish bar got pissed. There was a shit band singing rebel songs. When they stopped we all sang The Sash and a number of other loyalist songs, one of our members new the entire versions of a surprisingly large number of them. The WOMBLES who were with us were mortified. It were fun. Memories from the corner of my mind..........

Boulcolonialboy "the clear concrete"
Posts: 1541 Joined: 02-10-04 Location: Belfast
8 April, 2008 - 09:13
guydebordisdead wrote:
Surprised to see boul stick his oar in with petty criticisms. Shocked even. roll eyes

Petty? Well you would say that having missed the NUJ fringe conference and the significant proportion of discussion devoted to such matters as media strategies, journalism, 'professionalism', and snazzy layout.

None of what I said was meant to be petty and I have said I hope it improves, and I'm sure it will, in future. 'Ulster' in the blurb ain't a petty concern. Poorly written articles that have northing to do with the headline or photo associated with them isn't a petty concern, reckoning its a bit late in the day to realise Sinn Fein aren't socialist is not a petty concern.

Thanks for the reasoning on numbering jackwhite.

Weeler "The wind that shakes Nathan Barley"
Posts: 5677 Joined: 25-09-05 Location: Dublin
8 April, 2008 - 14:38
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
None of what I said was meant to be petty and I have said I hope it improves, and I'm sure it will, in future. 'Ulster' in the blurb ain't a petty concern. Poorly written articles that have northing to do with the headline or photo associated with them isn't a petty concern, reckoning its a bit late in the day to realise Sinn Fein aren't socialist is not a petty concern.

For a moment I thought your were talking about Organise! publications. Wow, you go to one NUJ meeting and all of a sudden you are mr media. For what its worth the issue was not the sole effort of the ex-member you are obviously playing out a grudge against - it was sub-edited by the usual WSM editorial group etc. I think its a great edition and certainly better than the nothing that your own group is currently producing. We should take your concerns on board though so you will be able to help distribute the next one? Great.

Weeler "The wind that shakes Nathan Barley"
Posts: 5677 Joined: 25-09-05 Location: Dublin
8 April, 2008 - 14:40
georgestapleton wrote:
At the 2005 london bookfair the WSM and a few other all went to some irish bar got pissed. There was a shit band singing rebel songs. When they stopped we all sang The Sash and a number of other loyalist songs, one of our members new the entire versions of a surprisingly large number of them. The WOMBLES who were with us were mortified. It were fun. Memories from the corner of my mind..........

At the 2006 some of us sang god save the queen, for lack of better songs.

Weeler "The wind that shakes Nathan Barley"
Posts: 5677 Joined: 25-09-05 Location: Dublin
8 April, 2008 - 14:40
xConorx wrote:
yeah or else I'll tell everyone yours GDID

Weeler? Or B...

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
Posts: 9285 Joined: 09-12-04 Location: Belfast
8 April, 2008 - 14:41
guydebordisdead wrote:
I think its a great edition and certainly better than the nothing that your own group is currently producing.

Here, for fucks sake.

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
Posts: 9285 Joined: 09-12-04 Location: Belfast
8 April, 2008 - 14:42
guydebordisdead wrote:
xConorx wrote:
yeah or else I'll tell everyone yours GDID

Weeler? Or B...

oh obviously the B one wink

notch8 "Spiteful Loner"
Posts: 168 Joined: 23-03-08 Location: Belfast
8 April, 2008 - 21:59

If the title were entirely accurate it would be (A) Newspaper Of (A Minority Of) Anarchists in Ulster. As it stands, it declares itself the official and only publication of Anarchists north of The Border (which Im becoming increasingly convinced we need a big wall built along).

Bobby
Posts: 503 Joined: 22-09-05
8 April, 2008 - 22:11
notch8 wrote:
If the title were entirely accurate it would be (A) Newspaper Of (A Minority Of) Anarchists in Ulster. As it stands, it declares itself the official and only publication of Anarchists north of The Border (which Im becoming increasingly convinced we need a big wall built along).

As it stands, it declares itself the official and only publication of Anarchists north of the border?

What complete rubbish..

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
Posts: 9285 Joined: 09-12-04 Location: Belfast
8 April, 2008 - 22:25

"newspaper of anarchists in ulster"

come-on, it does give the impression that it's representative of ulster anarchists
I also think it's bizarre language to have on the front of your first issue up here - it looks like a wind up wink

agitate
Posts: 2 Joined: 08-04-08
8 April, 2008 - 22:26

Apart from the fact being that it is still a Workers Solidarity newspaper with more local issues. If Organise! had any sense which i very much doubth they should get on with building their own group and propaganda if there is any instead of attempting to score rather childish cheap political points.
Unfortunately you said it, it might just be the only official publication in the north or whatever you want to call it because organise dont produce regular, sustained propaganda... confused

notch8 "Spiteful Loner"
Posts: 168 Joined: 23-03-08 Location: Belfast
8 April, 2008 - 22:29
Bobby wrote:
notch8 wrote:
If the title were entirely accurate it would be (A) Newspaper Of (A Minority Of) Anarchists in Ulster. As it stands, it declares itself the official and only publication of Anarchists north of The Border (which Im becoming increasingly convinced we need a big wall built along).

As it stands, it declares itself the official and only publication of Anarchists north of the border?

What complete rubbish..

How's it rubbish? The title clearly implies that it is THE newspaper of Anarchists in Ulster, when it is obviously A Newspaper Of Some Anarchists In Ulster. The title is disingenuous, dont try to play dumb and say it isnt.

revol68 "MILF Hunter"
Posts: 17240 Joined: 23-02-04 Location: Belfast
8 April, 2008 - 22:44

All i know is I laughed my balls off when i read the "newspaper of Anarchists in Ulster" blurb. Was nearly as funny as the time I was described as "Ulster Youth" on the front page of Daily Mirror.

agitate
Posts: 2 Joined: 08-04-08
8 April, 2008 - 22:55

Orangise! should produce their own paper called Newspaper of Anarchists in Northern Ireland than....

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
Posts: 9285 Joined: 09-12-04 Location: Belfast
8 April, 2008 - 22:57

Exactly it's playing dumb, it was clearly chosen for a reason - are you telling me you didn't think carefully about something you declare boldly on the front page? Come-on. It's just bizarre really, even we wouldn't say something like, despite joking about it!!

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