Distribute Workers Solidarity 102- Newspaper of Anarchists in Ulster
Apr 8 2008 23:41
#32
Quote:
For a moment I thought your were talking about Organise! publications. Wow, you go to one NUJ meeting and all of a sudden you are mr media. For what its worth the issue was not the sole effort of the ex-member you are obviously playing out a grudge against - it was sub-edited by the usual WSM editorial group etc. I think its a great edition and certainly better than the nothing that your own group is currently producing. We should take your concerns on board though so you will be able to help distribute the next one? Great.
We do currently have a publication, have been distributing your publication all weekend and will help to distribute the next one.
Apr 9 2008 00:09
#33
Dry your eyes mates, anarchism is obviously serious business since you have got competition.
Apr 9 2008 00:19
#34
I suppouse with the decline of the SWP it was inevitable a group would come along to fill that particular niche.
Apr 9 2008 10:44
#35
I'm happy that there is a group organised enough to take a leading role too Revol. 
Apr 9 2008 17:47
#36
Guy, I do find your last two comments not helpful and there is no point in lowering yourself to that standard. Obviously we believe wsm is better equipped in terms of politics, organisational model, resources and infastructure now and in the future to meet the challenges of the 21st century to build a more successful anarchist/libertarian movement in Belfast as well as building co-operation with Organise!
Point taken in regards to 'Newspaper of Anarchists in Ulster', although there is no disingenuous and malicious attempt but thats up for you to decide and it seems that every wsm publication, activity is met with the same hostility and criticism but thats Organise! perogative and problem.
BTW, wsm recruitment policy is here
http://www.wsm.ie/story/533
http://www.wsm.ie/story/454
no mention of a 'deliberate policy' to target dissaffected republicans?
Apr 9 2008 18:19
#37
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
the journalistic content isn't great. I've already expressed my reservations about the article on Republicanism.Having said that I'm sure it will improve over time and I wish ye all well with it.
that's just cos my article was cut out for this issue, quel domage!
anyway lads, this stuff about 'newspaper of anarchists in ulster' being the same as 'newspaper of ALL THE anarchists in ulster' is just silly. i've never heard from even the most anti-wsm anarchists in ireland that the 'anarchists in ireland' byline failed to represent them so i think ye are really grasping. and will you please make up your mind whether we're pandering to republicans or unionists, we can't be doing both now can we? talk about walking on eggshells 
and conor, i don't know what they teach in northie geography class but ulster includes cavan, donegal, and monaghan. poor lads.
and i saw your paper at the bookfair. it was nice. content looked good. didn't manage to retain a copy tho. it's great ye are getting it together to do a regular publication. i actually went through all your stuff that we have archived in the office at one point last year for a college essay on sectarianism in the north.
Apr 9 2008 18:58
#38
p.s. have youse gotten a website up at the moment? that's really equally important as doing print versions since more people will read the articles online then will do so in print form.
Apr 9 2008 20:38
#39
Apr 9 2008 20:42
#40
Nevermind this thread more urgent struggles at the moment
Apr 9 2008 20:43
#41
Me, Boul etc were at the rally today and went yesterday to show our support and offer any limited help. Bastards like these trade union officials need hung.
Apr 9 2008 20:55
#42
ronan wrote:
and conor, i don't know what they teach in northie geography class but ulster includes cavan, donegal, and monaghan. poor lads
ah, poor Ronan in not understanding nordie humour shock
Apr 9 2008 21:42
#43
xConorx wrote:
ronan wrote:
and conor, i don't know what they teach in northie geography class but ulster includes cavan, donegal, and monaghan. poor ladsah, poor Ronan in not understanding nordie humour shock
Yeah, also we dont really want them three counties anyways, they'll be like an overspill area.
Apr 9 2008 21:48
#44
It's true, Cavan, Monaghan, and Donegal are fucking shite. To be honest I'd be quite happy to get rid of Tyrone, Fermanagh, Derry , Armagh, and most of Down.
Apr 9 2008 21:54
#45
I would be happy with just Dublin and Belfast as Islands with everything else flooded. Big love in going on here now, wowsers.
Apr 9 2008 22:43
#46
Aye Dublin and Belfast will do. If you'd asked me a year ago I might have spared Cork, but nah, fuck that place too.
Apr 9 2008 23:54
#47
jack white wrote:
http://organiseireland.blogspot.com/
Aye but since bobby left the password won't work 
this is an article from our latest issue of WCR. One that you engaged in petty point scoring off the back of. You have undoubtedly seen that issue of WCR as it was available at the WSM anarchist bookfair in Dublin. Another copy will be produced before May Day.
Pretty sure "agitate" (new user name bobby? I mean I don't know anyone else who spells then as "than" or maybe thats catching?) has seen it too, so
Not nothing then.
Course it wasn't the "sole effort" of one member, who I am not playing a grudge out against btw, I never for a moment thought it was. Nothing personal at all, the cover article is rambling with paragraphs lifted (randomly) straight out of previous articles published by Organise!, the article on Sinn Fein is at least 20 years slow on the uptake, a mention of the Ethel MacDonald film showing in Belfast for International Women's Day promotes the role of the WSM in putting it together without actually mentioning that it was a Just Books event and everyone I know (that represents quite a broad swathe of the left in Belfast) who has got a copy of "102 Ulster" at events in Belfast has basically had a "what-the-fuck" response to the "Newspaper of Anarchists in Ulster" banner. My advice to re-think the use of the word Ulster above was sincerely given.
And excuse me for saying so, but I (and other Organise! members) do actually know how to write an article without the benefit of attending a recent NUJ fringe meeting. There were other points raised that open WCR to criticism - one being that is is obviously produced on a photocopier at present. We're taking that on board given financial limitations, maybe you should take on board the other points?
Petty? With the shite yer spouting here GDID you have a fuckin cheek accusing anyone of petty behaviour.
And agitate, for what its worth, Organise! have been building our organisation just fine since bobby's departure.