WSM are cooking something up if you're interested
The Lisbon Treaty
So if the no passes there is no plan B from the EU. This was the case in France during the last referendum here. Yet the Lisbon treaty passed through parlement but it needed changes on the title XV of the Constitution of the 5th Republic.
Few thoughts out of it:
Refenrendums are just another illusions of democracy. Nothing new here. If the State wants to pass a law and it is not constitutional, the law will pass under another name and with a change of the Constitution.
The future referendums in France concerning the EU will be about new EU members. this comes out of the "no" and this is how the parlement pretends to understand this no: it means that french people don't want countries like Turkey in the EU thereby the State must takes this apprehention in consideration. This is another consequence of the stupidity of referendums: you end up companing for the no with nationalists, fascists, racists, stalinists,... and the State uses it of course.
Now my question is, is it possible that the Irish State use the same tactic in case the no passes? If yes, could someone send me the precise constitutional details? Am I being a law freak? I'm afraid I am. But it would be an interesting thing to keep in mind.
Another point: abortion never passed in France in the form of a referendum but because of a conflict of forces in the streets which reached a point where the parlemant could do nothing but propose a law reglementing abortion. But I do understand we will in another historical context.
Oh and sorry for the frenchisation of my comment. I'm loosing my english.
Thanks
ooooooooh I'm sooo daft!
Just went throught the proposal for the referendum. Should have gone through it before hand! So it is about the amendment which will modify the Constitution in order to give power to the parlement.
Must say no! irish State slightly more "democratic" than the french republic, scary shit.
but what about that Le Pen visit?
Any one anarchists organising to campaign for a no vote in the referendum on the lisbon treaty? Seems like it would be a good chance to talk to people about an alternative vision for our society. What would it take to mount some sort of campaign like in terms of money and leaflets and posters and the like?