A couple of quotes from revol68 this thread http://libcom.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10563 on the north american section
It's typical of the fucking sub cultural gutter anarchists have found themselves in and its self perpetuating
the current composition of "radical politics" be that anarchist, left communist or trot are indicative of their reification into self perpeuating sub cultures.
So my issue is that I have lots of friends who are share alot of my ideas and would like to find out more, however they don't like the whole "anarcho scene" and the tossers that populate it. And if one of my friends decided to go to an anarchist bookfair, they would have all their worst prejudices fufilled about what "anarchists" are like. So I don't think it's inappropriate for some peeople to take issue with bullshit that further alienates radical theory and history from whole demographics and swathes of people, so some attention seeking lil fucktard can inflate their fucking ballsack.
Just to bring this up in the context of Ireland, well Belfast specifically. Y'see I think generalisations have been made by revol68 about the state of the 'anarchist movement' that don't hold water here. There is no movement here that is associated with loons and lifestylists. The nearest we had was probably some of those associated with giros and that couldn't really be taken as part of any 'anarchist movement'. The Dublin anarchist bookfair didn't reflect this sort of lunacy and if Just Books or Organise! hosted an anarchist bookfair in Belfast I'm pretty fuckin sure it would reflect a more sane and, well, workerist outlook.
So I'm asking, specifically in relation to Belfast, what sub cultural gutter revol reckons anarchists have found themselves in? If as I reckon there may have been aspects of this in Belfast in the past I can see no evidence of it now so surely this hasn't been self perpetuating? Surely the type of work Organise! has done in the past and what we want to do in the future has left little room for people to associate anarchism with such lunacy? I mean years of even just attending the Belfast May Day, the sorts of working class struggles we have supported and other stuff have pretty much countered any association between anarchism and this lifestylist and liberal nonsense in at least significant sections of the labour movement here have they not? So surely far from being self perpetuating this can be successfully challenged? What "anarcho scene" is there in Belfast or elsewhere in the north that your friends don't like?
The real danger in these types of generalisations is that even where they clearly cannot be applied to the state of the anarchist 'movement' people use them to justify the abandonment of those tendiencies of working class self organisation that revol68 correctly identifies as being of great significance. Continually venting about stuff like this in such a generalised manner seems to replace fantasy for reality just as much as those yankee loons who were inflating their ballix do.