Norwich IWW

darren poynton "towards a better understanding of the world, in order to change it"
Posts: 148 Joined: 05-07-06 Location: Norwich, UK
Submitted by darren poynton on 11 October, 2007 - 13:44.

We now have a new website : www.iww-norwich.org.uk

comments welcome!

jambo1 "anarchy in the far north?"
Posts: 190 Joined: 02-06-07 Location: invergordon, ross-shire
11 October, 2007 - 18:07

i think this is a good way to go, with websites specific to branches. good stuff.

OliverTwister "Tied directly to Bekken and the Philly camp"
Posts: 2107 Joined: 10-10-05 Location: San Francisco, USA
11 October, 2007 - 22:29

well they could also be part of the iww site, like norwich.iww.org.

jambo1 "anarchy in the far north?"
Posts: 190 Joined: 02-06-07 Location: invergordon, ross-shire
12 October, 2007 - 05:53

its good that local branches have their own site, but it doesn't detract from the main site where anyone with an interest in the union should start.

x357997 "go ahead, make my day...punk"
Posts: 1851 Joined: 04-12-06 Location: Yay Area
12 October, 2007 - 05:56

yea, it would be their own site. just hosted by the (supposedly) international one. Either way they should get a page on the international one.

jambo1 "anarchy in the far north?"
Posts: 190 Joined: 02-06-07 Location: invergordon, ross-shire
12 October, 2007 - 05:58

yes see your point, it would be best, then at least when you go to the main site its all there for you.

Tacks "in it to win it"
Posts: 4655 Joined: 08-11-05
12 October, 2007 - 16:17
Quote:
Unlike the conventional unions which operate within the labour-market; the IWW seeks ultimately to abolish the wage system and organise production according to the needs of people, not profit.

i think that should be a comma not a semi-colon.

x357997 "go ahead, make my day...punk"
Posts: 1851 Joined: 04-12-06 Location: Yay Area
12 October, 2007 - 21:20

laboour market? you realise we operate within the market...as does everything else.

darren poynton "towards a better understanding of the world, in order to change it"
Posts: 148 Joined: 05-07-06 Location: Norwich, UK
13 October, 2007 - 09:13
Quote:
laboour market? you realise we operate within the market...as does everything else.

OK maybe I'll reword it "unlike the conventional unions which operate wholly within the labour-market: ..."
or : "unlike the conventional unions whos sole interest is the labour-market: ..."

Trying to emphasise that the ultimate aim isn't an increase in wages, but the complete transformation of production relations!

Prefer to keep it on a seperate server, most UK branch websites do it this way..

x357997 "go ahead, make my day...punk"
Posts: 1851 Joined: 04-12-06 Location: Yay Area
13 October, 2007 - 14:53

you mean labour market, like the labour party ideal for a market?

OliverTwister "Tied directly to Bekken and the Philly camp"
Posts: 2107 Joined: 10-10-05 Location: San Francisco, USA
13 October, 2007 - 16:11

No like the fact that we all have to get up every morning (or most mornings) and try to sell our labor to survive.

darren poynton "towards a better understanding of the world, in order to change it"
Posts: 148 Joined: 05-07-06 Location: Norwich, UK
14 October, 2007 - 09:37
Quote:
you mean labour market, like the labour party ideal for a market?

No, I mean labour market as in labour-power bought and sold as a commodity! As Oliver said.

x357997 "go ahead, make my day...punk"
Posts: 1851 Joined: 04-12-06 Location: Yay Area
14 October, 2007 - 18:53

oh. but we do live in that market no matter what union we are in.

darren poynton "towards a better understanding of the world, in order to change it"
Posts: 148 Joined: 05-07-06 Location: Norwich, UK
15 October, 2007 - 08:52

I don't suggest that we can simply opt out of the market by joining a union, or declaring oneselve an ananrchist or communist (or by growing a beard)! The point is as I've said before : the IWW wants to ultimately abolish the labour-market, the other unions mearly want to negotionate within the market i.e they are a fully intergrated part of capitalism.

Going to change the wording to this one when I get chance: "unlike the conventional unions whos sole interest is the labour-market: ..."

Coconut man "Will probably be a liberal MP in 5 years"
Posts: 167 Joined: 13-02-04 Location: Norwich
3 December, 2007 - 00:56

We now have a myspace too, so add us to your friends. http://www.myspace.com/norwichiww

ftony "crews are for boats"
Posts: 3618 Joined: 26-05-04 Location: East London
3 December, 2007 - 09:02

added!