Oct. 1 anti-war call

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I just found out about this
http://www.mpi-web.net/sdtwm/news.php
and noticed two IWW branches endorsed.
Is this going to be really any different than the walkouts organized by workers world and the rcp?
If so, why, if not, why bother?

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that was my thought. what's this all about ?

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they link to WSA too (right hand side)

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I promise to not go to school that day but I don't know about work and shopping.

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There's a difference between the endorsers list
http://www.mpi-web.net/sdtwm/page.php?4
and the right hand side "sites of interest" column.

I'm not opposed to mass walkouts/strikes as a form of anti-war protest, but I'm always leery of initiatives from vanguard parties, which this seems to be.

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The WSA was emailed by a group called "Workers Against War" http://www.workersagainstwar.org/default.html which seems, to me at least, connected to "Shut Down the War Machine" http://www.mpi-web.net/sdtwm/news.php

Anyway, I was reading the signatures and cam across some oddities. Well, for me at least, in this sense. I see some cross-membership between some Communist League (http://www.communistleague.org/) folks and the IWW ( http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?sickday&1 ). Is there some sort of CL enteryism into the IWW going on?

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oh jesus fucking christ! for real? Yeah they were hyping the IWW for a bit in their publications, and that was a concern. Anyone know anything about them? The strange thing is that it came from the NYC branch and Pittsburg. I know NYC would be too big to just up and infultrate. well actually the gmb meetings might be small, i think no one attends them. Perhaps activism is the disease there? There's someone here from Pitt who can prolly speak to this.

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The idea of a general strike against the war seems to be catching on, but the calls all seem divorced froom any real mass base.
this is the screwiest
http://libcom.org/forums/news/general-strike-14082007
you guys are pretty good at fending off or aborbing enteryist moves, but watch out.

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I wouldn't be too worried. If they do try any entryism, we'll beat them to a pulp with big sticks. Or just not invite them to any parties.

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David in Atlanta wrote:
you guys are pretty good at fending off or aborbing enteryist moves, but watch out.

someone would have to teach them how to run the union before they could take over the union.

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Or it's being publicised in a much more effective way now.

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heh. Answer marches. I really hate those. They make moronic calls, expect dc folks to drop everything and then disrespect us.

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The DC march is a seperate action all togather, just the usual ANSWER peace crawl. Not completely useless, but not a general strike or intended to be one.

Is there a way we, wobs, etc., can build towards a serious national strike against the war and would it be effective?

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I think a good first step might be the stop people making disparate 'strike' calls without any support base and then linking up with the SDS kids.

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Well most IWW members under 25 are SDS as well so that shouldn't be any kind of issue. Personally I think something like that could be really great. We would need to plan a lot and put in a great deal of time and effort but I think we could get decent numbers if we really focused and made the right connections.

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whoa there pokey, in some places there may be a lot of SDS-IWWs but in other places there are zero. No disrespect to SDS folk, just want to clear up any potential mischaracterizations. For instance in my branch people who have even gone to college are in a minority. In many of the larger more active branches this is true to.

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With all due respect for SDS, how do we get from a minority of students on a couple dozen campuses walking out, or a few thousand people nationwide calling in sick for Leninist sponsored rallies, to a mass strike that will actually be noticed?

Could the IWW as a body initiate a call autonomously from the parties or would that be too distracting from workplace organizing?
Could we get USLAW, for instance, to sign on for something like this? Still a small group, but a start, no?

Holy crap! there's another one!
http://www.generalstrikeforpeace.com/General%20Strike%20for%20Peace/Supporters.html

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I'm going to issue a call for a general strike for pizza. I'm reforming the Proletarian Unity League as a minority crypto-Leninist caucus within NEFAC that will wage a dual struggle against the creeping IWW entry of NEFAC, and for pizza.

Political Line Is Not Key - Pizza Line is Key!

All Out for August 17! Shut down the lack of pizza machine!

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whoa there pokey, in some places there may be a lot of SDS-IWWs but in other places there are zero. No disrespect to SDS folk, just want to clear up any potential mischaracterizations. For instance in my branch people who have even gone to college are in a minority. In many of the larger more active branches this is true to.

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*shrugs* SDS isn't just college campuses, its any and all students as well as a general youth movement. Probably a quarter of all chapters are high school and another quarter are regional. Only half of those are college and most of those community or state colleges. As far as I've seen any gmb with young folks tends to have SDS close by.

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The Pgh GMB endorsed a previous event, but not the one scheduled for Oct. 26, 2007, so our name should not be listed as endorsing. On the CL, this is not actually related to that, but there is some history there. PM me.

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The Pgh GMB endorsed a previous event, but not the one scheduled for Oct. 26, 2007, so our name should not be listed as endorsing. On the CL, this is not actually related to that, but there is some history there. PM me.

y'all are listed on the Oct. 1st call. no branches were listed on the Oct.26, just some individual wobs.

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Well, having attended all the branch meetings within the last year, I can safely say that we have not endorsed either of the October events, but no motion was presented on them either.

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MJ wrote:
I'm going to issue a call for a general strike for pizza. I'm reforming the Proletarian Unity League as a minority crypto-Leninist caucus within NEFAC that will wage a dual struggle against the creeping IWW entry of NEFAC, and for pizza.

Political Line Is Not Key - Pizza Line is Key!

All Out for August 17! Shut down the lack of pizza machine!

this is exactly what i needed tonight!

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I believe both of these protests are now scheduled for October 26th.

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you're right, they are. Actually I don't know where i got the Oct. 1st.
Personally I think the Sept.21st thing sounds like the best thought out of the bunch.

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No, you were right. It was changed from Oct. 1 to Oct. 26

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[As far as I've seen any gmb with young folks tends to have SDS close by.

Been to Canada? Does SDS have any presence at all up here?

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Here is the ILWU call:

The idea is to host the conference, get other unions involved in the planning and work towards a strike action against the war at some point in the Spring. I know Jack and I think its a fine idea. I just hope that they can mobilize enough support from unions outside of the ILWU to make it happen.

Labor Conference to Stop the War

October 20, 2007
ILWU Local 10
400 North Point Street,
San Francisco, California
@ Fisherman’s Wharf
For further information contact:
Jack Heyman (jackheyman@comcast.net)

As the war in Iraq and Afghanistan enters its seventh year, opposition to the war among working people in the United States and the world is massive and growing. The “surge” strategy of sending in more and more troops has become a fiasco for the Pentagon generals, while thousands of Iraqis are killed every month.

Before the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, millions marched against the war in Britain, Italy and Spain as hundreds of thousands took to the streets in the U. S. to oppose it. But that didn’t stop the invasion. In the U. S., this “war on terror” has meant wholesale assault on civil liberties and workers’ rights, like the impending imposition of the hated TWIC card for port workers. And the war keeps going on and on, as Democrats and Republicans in Congress keep on voting for it.

As historian Isaac Deutscher said during the Vietnam War, a single strike would be more effective than all the peace marches. French dockworkers did strike in the port of Marseilles and helped bring an end to the war in Vietnam. To put a stop to this bloody colonial occupation, labor must use its power.

The International Warehouse and Longshore Union has opposed the war on Iraq since the beginning. In the Bay Area, ILWU Local 10 has repeatedly warned that the so-called “war on terror” is really a war on working people and democratic rights. Around the country, hundreds of unions and labor councils have passed motions condemning the war, but that has not stopped the war. We need to use labor’s muscle to stop the war by mobilizing union power in the streets, at the plant gates and on the docks to force the immediate and total withdrawal of all U. S. troops from Afghanistan and Iraq.

The clock is ticking. It’s time for labor action to bring the war machine to a grinding halt and end this slaughter. During longshore contract negotiations in the run-up to the Iraq invasion, Bush cited port security and imposed the slave-labor Taft-Hartley Law against the ILWU in collusion with the maritime employers group PMA and with the support of the Democrats. Yet, he did nothing when PMA shut down every port on the U. S. West Coast by locking out longshore workers just the week before!

In April 2003, when antiwar protesters picketed war cargo shippers, APL and SSA, in the Port of Oakland, police fired on picketers and longshoremen alike with their “less than lethal” ammo that left six ILWU members and many others seriously injured. We refused to let our rights be trampled on, sued the city and won. Democratic rights were reasserted a month later when antiwar protesters marched in the port and all shipping was stopped. This past May, when antiwar protesters and the Oakland Education Association again picketed war cargo shippers in Oakland, longshoremen honored the picket line. This is only the beginning.

Last year, Local 10 passed a resolution calling to “Strike Against the War - No Peace, No Work.” The motion emphasized the ILWU’s proud history in opposing wars for imperial domination, recalling how in 1978 Local 10 refused to load bombs for the Pinochet dictatorship in Chile. In the 1980’s, Bay Area dock workers highlighted opposition to South African apartheid slavery by boycotting (“hot cargoing”) the Nedlloyd Kimberly, while South African workers waged militant strikes to bring down the white supremacist regime.

Now Locals 10 and 34 of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union have called for a “Labor Conference to Stop the War” to hammer out a program of action. We’re saying: Enough! It’s high time to use union power against the bosses’ war, independent of the “bipartisan” war party. The ILWU can again take the lead, but action against the war should not be limited to the docks. We urge unions in the San Francisco Bay Area and throughout the country to attend the conference and plan workplace rallies, labor mobilizations in the streets and strike action against the war.

October 20, 2007
ILWU Local 10
400 North Point Street,
San Francisco, California
@ Fisherman’s Wharf