crass

anarchyjordan "banned"
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Submitted by anarchyjordan on 16 August, 2008 - 00:25.

i like them
'middle class, working class, it's all a load of shit'

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Lone Wolf "An explanation is not the same as an excuse. "
Posts: 4352 Joined: 01-03-06 Location: E. London UK
16 August, 2008 - 00:39

They are amazing. cool

I started a tribute thread about them; it will be lurking in the libcommunity archives.

"Defence? Shit! It's nothing less than War!
And no one but the Government knows what the fuck its for"

Love

LW XX

anarchyjordan "banned"
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16 August, 2008 - 00:59

i linked to this elsewhere but what the hell it's an awesome movie
there's no authority but yourself by alexander oey

Lone Wolf "An explanation is not the same as an excuse. "
Posts: 4352 Joined: 01-03-06 Location: E. London UK
16 August, 2008 - 02:04
anarchyjordan wrote:
i linked to this elsewhere but what the hell it's an awesome movie
there's no authority but yourself by alexander oey

Cheers, didn't see your other link, an enjoyable hour.

Had no idea Becks once won a designer Crass t-shirt. Feck stupid JPG should have stuck to the pointy bras. Becks should totally have paid off the debt on Dial House; doubt if he ever got Penny's letter tho or would understand the first thing about the group's ethos of course. neutral

madashell "KSW, LOL"
Posts: 3114 Joined: 19-06-06 Location: Merseyside
16 August, 2008 - 02:08

If it were possible to isolate pure failure and put it to music, it would sound something like Crass.

Lone Wolf "An explanation is not the same as an excuse. "
Posts: 4352 Joined: 01-03-06 Location: E. London UK
16 August, 2008 - 02:13
madashell wrote:
If it were possible to isolate pure failure and put it to music, it would sound something like Crass.

I won't forget the expression on your face when i dug out the Crass at the Lair; it was a heady mix of fury and disdain. grin

Just as well we are friends smile

anarchyjordan "banned"
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16 August, 2008 - 03:30

i would really like to go visit them, dollars aren't worth shit there tho

magnifico "rehabilitating"
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16 August, 2008 - 11:07

I heard them before and didn't really like it, i remember being annoyed by some rather self righteous pacifism or something like that

However I went to a festival a few weeks ago Penny Rimbaud was doing poetry there; it was really good, also he had some guy playing a violin with him and was getting proper into it, worked up a right sweat so he did

Refused "wee fuck'n' strings"
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16 August, 2008 - 11:13

Poetry accompanied by violin. Jesus fucking christ.

tigersiskillers "now slightly more sane, and that's official"
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16 August, 2008 - 11:30

I kind of like Crass, but at the same time, they were bollocks.

Django
Posts: 406 Joined: 18-01-08 Location: Manchester
16 August, 2008 - 11:38

And their hippy politics are fucked.

tigersiskillers "now slightly more sane, and that's official"
Posts: 252 Joined: 07-08-06
16 August, 2008 - 11:56

Yeah, it's the politics that were fucked - individualist, lifestylist. But I like the tunes.

Oh, and they did spawn Conflict. That's a crime.

Jack "Yes we can"
Posts: 10281 Joined: 22-09-03 Location: Brighton
16 August, 2008 - 16:17
magnifico wrote:
I heard them before and didn't really like it, i remember being annoyed by some rather self righteous pacifism or something like that

However I went to a festival a few weeks ago Penny Rimbaud was doing poetry there; it was really good, also he had some guy playing a violin with him and was getting proper into it, worked up a right sweat so he did

sad

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
Posts: 10827 Joined: 09-12-04 Location: Belfast
16 August, 2008 - 18:02

Awful, awful shite.

jambo1 "anarchy in the far north?"
Posts: 234 Joined: 02-06-07 Location: invergordon, ross-shire
16 August, 2008 - 19:16

crass and the anarcho bands that came after them were the fucking dogs bollocks!!! so fuck off all you moaning bastards!! ban all you twats that are dissing crass circle A .

jambo1 "anarchy in the far north?"
Posts: 234 Joined: 02-06-07 Location: invergordon, ross-shire
16 August, 2008 - 19:17

altho i did see flux of pink indians and they were total utter shite.

gmcn2003
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16 August, 2008 - 20:25

hey i saw crass in glasgow - we had more police INSIDE the plaza in south glasgow than the fan-type-people!
fuckin funny, i was 12 yo, a wee bit scared, got mashed on home-made beer after - destroyed my young brain.
but they were good - i get confused about people drolling on about class analysis - crass don't and that's good....

so there!

anarchyjordan "banned"
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16 August, 2008 - 20:26

conor prefers britney, but since i've already apparently been deemed a lifestylist twat i must say:
'it all seems very easy, this revolution game. but when you start to really play, things won't be quite the same.
your intellectual theories about how it's going to be don't seem to take into account the true reality
because the truth of what you're saying, as you sit there sipping beer
is pain and death and suffering, but of course you wouldn't care."

RPG "resist much, obey little"
Posts: 275 Joined: 08-08-05 Location: Kent
16 August, 2008 - 20:55

i can't forgive the recent Feeding of the 5,000 reunion and didn't really like them, musically, back in the 70s/80s (in fact I thought they were a bloody racket) but they gave anarchism in this country a real boost. I still meet comrades who say Crass are the reason that they became anarchists. I did once own a Do They Own Us A Living? badge.

weeler "temp banned"
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16 August, 2008 - 21:37
anarchyjordan wrote:
conor prefers britney, but since i've already apparently been deemed a lifestylist twat i must say:
'it all seems very easy, this revolution game. but when you start to really play, things won't be quite the same.
your intellectual theories about how it's going to be don't seem to take into account the true reality
because the truth of what you're saying, as you sit there sipping beer
is pain and death and suffering, but of course you wouldn't care."

Yeh, that pretty much sums it up. $800 for whoever brings the pain death and suffering to anarchyjordan.

anarchyjordan "banned"
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16 August, 2008 - 21:45

wow weener the price keeps going up. what a capitalist parasite you must be to have all that money to give to whoever brings me teh pain
hey look they be stealing your bucket walrus weener. go get it back!!!1!

weeler "temp banned"
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16 August, 2008 - 22:05

Having money makes me a capitalist? Nah, I just work and like putting hits on US anarchyists.

anarchyjordan "banned"
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16 August, 2008 - 22:09

well 800 pounds is like twice that much in dollars, you booshwah turkey you. why don't you come drop by LA and visit me? you'd live like a king, plus you could hit on me

weeler "temp banned"
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16 August, 2008 - 22:13

I knew all you wanted was acceptance. At first you will resist growing out of your youthful idiocy, but once you embrace it there is a world of pleasures to win.

anarchyjordan "banned"
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16 August, 2008 - 22:16

ok so you're saying if i come to ire-land you'll embrace me, put me up, feed me, give me drugs n booze, take me to all your awesome parties, and let me format your hard drive?
this calls for a celebration! can we paint the town red n black?

weeler "temp banned"
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16 August, 2008 - 22:18

I did that for rev-rugger. I have reservations about you.

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
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16 August, 2008 - 22:25

lol he called you Weener even though you are called Weeler.

yaya2020
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16 August, 2008 - 22:52

thanks anarchyjordan that was a great movie

Lone Wolf "An explanation is not the same as an excuse. "
Posts: 4352 Joined: 01-03-06 Location: E. London UK
17 August, 2008 - 00:34
anarchyjordan wrote:
wow weener the price keeps going up. what a capitalist parasite you must be to have all that money to give to whoever brings me teh pain
hey look they be stealing your bucket walrus weener. go get it back!!!1!

laugh out loud

I like you AJ. cool

I mean not cos you tease Weeler but in general. Nice new (ish! ) energetic person.

weeler "temp banned"
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17 August, 2008 - 01:48

Oh fuck off lone wolf. The guy is a mental troll.

edgewaters
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17 August, 2008 - 07:29

From that particular genre/era/place, I got into the subhumans more. I never liked Crass' way of wrapping itself in fascist/militaristic imagery. And, on a purely subjective level, the music stank.

But I can't deny that they were influential ... even over here in North America, and in the mid to late 80s no less, we had no shortage of "Crassholes" seemingly in spite of much better musical offerings from the domestic subculture (eg Bad Brains etc)

Oh, and Thatchergate was sheer brilliance. Too bad it was such an isolated incident - a thousand of those sorts of cuts could have had some real effect.

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