Czech Republic

Submitted by Devrim on 26 October, 2006 - 06:24.

I am thinking of moving to Prague. I s there anything going on there, groups etc?
Dev

26 October, 2006 - 09:05

I'm a little bit out of date in my knowledge but yeah, there's anarcho-syndicalists, the czech and slovak anarchist federation, platformists and there may even be the people that split from solidarita in a left-communist direction.

26 October, 2006 - 09:09

Yes, I saw a link to something like this on 'leftist parties of the world'. It didn't work though. Do you have any links Ned?
Dev

26 October, 2006 - 09:11

your favourite type of activity wink

http://www.antifa.cz/

26 October, 2006 - 13:44
JDMF wrote:
your favourite type of activity wink

http://www.antifa.cz/

You beat me to it!

Went to Leipzig once with Czech ANTIFA - great bunch.

Didn't notice them maintaining proletarian positions against the swamp though, they were too busy trying to hit Nazis!

26 October, 2006 - 14:12
Devrim wrote:
I am thinking of moving to Prague. I s there anything going on there, groups etc?
Dev

Anarchistyouth had a talk by a female antifa from prague recently, they seem very full on. How are you with guns?

26 October, 2006 - 15:38

what's wrong with ankara? (it is ankara, isn't it?)

26 October, 2006 - 15:45

newyawka it's spelt a-n-t-i-f-a not a-n-k-a-r-a wink tongue

26 October, 2006 - 16:05
Quote:
So called “Sniper Camp” is annually organized since 2003, focusing on firearms training and self-defense combat skills.

they dont mess about! Now, where did nazi hunter go....

26 October, 2006 - 19:04
newyawka wrote:
what's wrong with ankara? (it is ankara, isn't it?)

I am having problems with work, (i.e. I haven’t got any) and I got offered an o.k. job in Prague.

PaulMarsh wrote:
JDMF wrote:
your favourite type of activity wink

http://www.antifa.cz/

You beat me to it!

Went to Leipzig once with Czech ANTIFA - great bunch.

Didn't notice them maintaining proletarian positions against the swamp though, they were too busy trying to hit Nazis!

Actually, Paul, I have nothing against beating up fascists. At times I have even done it myself, and early this year I arranged to meet a member of a group in town only to turn up, and find him involved in a fight with a fascist with a knife. The communist left is not against violence against fascists.

However, as you know we do have problems with anti-fascism.. They are threefold.

1) There is a tendency to substitute it for all political activity. The centre of politics becomes the fight against fascism. From what I saw on the internet, the Czech IWA-AIT group seems to have submerged itself into ANTIFA. At least they were the links that I followed. I don’t know if this is true, however. It often seems that anti-fascism becomes a the sole focus of people’s political activity.

2) Leading on from this, is what the SWP described as ‘squadism’ when they expelled ‘Red Action’. It is very much like a street gang mentality, ‘Crips‘, and ‘Bloods’. It leads to revolutionary politics becoming a ‘macho’ thing of who can go out there and ‘beat the shit out of the fash’. For people older than me, it is possible to look at the effects of this attitude in Turkey.
guydebordisdead wrote:

guydebordisdead wrote:
Anarchistyouth had a talk by a female antifa from prague recently, they seem very full on. How are you with guns?

In Turkey in the run p to the 1980 military coup the left, and the right fought out their own little war. It got to the stage that there were, on average, 30 political murders in İstanbul alone everyday. The left ended up putting all of its energy into fighting this war between different political factions, and became completely alienated from the working class.

3) The politics which goes alongside a lot of this macho bravado tends to declare that fascism is an aberration, and not a normal part of capital. From this they often end up in bed with all sorts of bourgeois politics, and end up defending the status quo against this ‘horrific’ threat from the right.

The communist left is not blind to the dangers of fascism, and actually has a long history, just look at the left communists in both Italy, and Germany, of physically fighting against it. It is also true though, as Bordiga wrote, that ‘the worst product of fascism is anti-fascism’. Not because people beat up fascists in the street, but because it has a tendency to move people away from working class politics into street gangs.

Devrim

26 October, 2006 - 19:29

devrim, its quite sweet how you made a good and informative long post to couple jests from familiar posters who know where you are coming from wink

26 October, 2006 - 19:34

one question if i may devrim, is the left communist group you are in in Ankara strong enough to survive a comrade leaving?

Not a stab or anything, many groups are so fragile that departure of just one member may do serious damage.

It will be interesting to see what you get up to over there though.

26 October, 2006 - 19:45

Have a good time if you go mate.

A few years back I saw Sparta Prague play in the Champions League - 35p a pint, and the back of the ground looks out onto Prague Castle, one of the best settings that you can ever watch football in.

Oh, and they beat Porto, managed by some cocky bloke who now manages Chelsea!

26 October, 2006 - 20:06
ftony wrote:
newyawka it's spelt a-n-t-i-f-a not a-n-k-a-r-a wink tongue

oh HAHAHA angry

26 October, 2006 - 21:42
Devrim wrote:
It is also true though, as Bordiga wrote, that ‘the worst product of fascism is anti-fascism’.

AFA were worse than the concentration camps and gas chambers? Slight over statement I think.

and I'm too out of touch with people in Prague to have any contact details.

26 October, 2006 - 21:48
PaulMarsh wrote:
Have a good time if you go mate.

A few years back I saw Sparta Prague play in the Champions League - 35p a pint, and the back of the ground looks out onto Prague Castle, one of the best settings that you can ever watch football in.

Oh, and they beat Porto, managed by some cocky bloke who now manages Chelsea!

Yes, I worked there before Paul for a rather large car manufacturer, (it was about the time that my marriage was breaking up, and I was trying to hold it together, so I wasn't invoved in politics there).
On the point of Czech football, I am a Mlada Boleslav man myself.

JDMF wrote:
devrim, its quite sweet how you made a good and informative long post to couple jests from familiar posters who know where you are coming from ;)

I haven't posted here for a while, and I was just getting back into it. It is nice to know that you think I am sweet though.

JDMF wrote:
one question if i may devrim, is the left communist group you are in in Ankara strong enough to survive a comrade leaving?

Not a stab or anything, many groups are so fragile that departure of just one member may do serious damage.

It will be interesting to see what you get up to over there though.

I hope so. I know you are not taking the piss, and it is a worry. I think that the kids are good though, and they probably don't need an old bastard like me ranting on at them.

Dev

1 December, 2006 - 09:29
nastyned wrote:
and there may even be the people that split from solidarita in a left-communist direction.

just for the clarification, when ora-solidarita moved to "left communism" some comrades who prefered "platformism" left us and found "anarcho-communist alternative" ("anarchokomunisticka alternativa" - aka) group. ora-s itself changed its name to "-1155; collectively against capital" ("kolektivne proti kapitalu") two years ago...

while website where kpk was publishing internet magazine called "alarm" died in this summer sad, aka can be found here (but just in czech sad ): [url=http://aka.anarchokomunismus.org]

2 December, 2006 - 01:33
ftony wrote:
newyawka it's spelt a-n-t-i-f-a not a-n-k-a-r-a wink tongue

grin Nice one!! You must have gotten something hot to eat yesterday.. wink

2 December, 2006 - 01:34
PaulMarsh wrote:

A few years back I saw Sparta Prague play in the Champions League - 35p a pint, and the back of the ground looks out onto Prague Castle, one of the best settings that you can ever watch football in.

Just to say that that experience sounds AMAZING!!!! On so many levels... [jealous]

2 December, 2006 - 01:43
Devrim wrote:

I am having problems with work, (i.e. I haven’t got any)

grin V. honest!

Just to say, Dev, that a couple of days ago I posted in a chatty friendly way about yer new situ on yer other thread and have only just noticed that it isn't there - it obviously didn't "take"..sad

I beat OT to it in asking where in the Heart of Europe you were etc etc as yer given locale was a TAD vague - had quite a war-time feel to it actually..."I am in the heart of Europe - I cannot give away my location..."etc. grin

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