Danse Macabre.....

Submitted by revol68 on 14 June, 2007 - 13:43.

New Age Manslaughter as Hippies let their mate die.

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PARTICIPANTS in a ritualistic ceremony danced, chanted and played drums while one of their friends lay dying from heat exhaustion, an inquest has heard.

Deputy State Coroner Anthony Schapel today was told the group believed Rowan Douglas Cooke was "astral-travelling" after being exposed to extreme heat inside a North American Indian-style "steam lodge".

Mr Cooke, 37, of Melbourne, spent several hours unconscious at a campsite 325km north of Port Augusta, before two men went to a nearby homestead for help.

He had travelled with 10 other Victorians to the Gammon Ranges in late October 2004 on a "Vision Quest" led by a "new age healer", David Jarvis, Mr Schapel heard.

Amty Davis, counsel assisting, said the trip involved camping on a creekbed, where earth altars were erected near a "steam lodge" built from pine poles, silver insulation and blankets.

Members of the group took turns to sit inside the sealed, dome-like structure while water was poured over heated volcanic rocks to create steam.

They would then leave the campsite and sit in circles on their own for 24 hours, without food, before returning for further "cleansing" sessions in the "steam lodge".

Ms Davis said Mr Cooke and two other people, Maureen Collier and Adrian Asfar, went into the "steam lodge" late on Tuesday, November 2, because they wanted to participate in a "pipe ceremony".

The trio had sat inside in the structure for about 20 minutes when Ms Collier shouted she wanted to be let out because she was in difficulty.

Other members of the group then found Mr Cooke and Mr Asfar unconscious inside the "steam lodge" and dragged them outside, where six blankets were put over Mr Cooke.

Ms Davis said while both men were still breathing, no attempts were made to revive them because the group believed they were having "out of body" experiences.

"It was considered by some of the campers that the men might have been astral-travelling, that their conscious selves had left their bodies and that they were deep in a meditative state," she said.

"Given that, it was decided that the group should undertake activities to call them back to their bodies."

Ms Davis said this involved chanting, playing drums and singing.

It was not until several hours later, at daybreak, that two members of the group realised Mr Cooke was critically ill and drove to a nearby homestead for help before returning with a station manager, Paul Doran, who tried to revive Mr Cooke.

Mr Doran called for a volunteer ambulance crew to be sent from Leigh Creek, 75km away, to treat Mr Cooke for severe dehydration and heat exhaustion.

Attempts to resuscitate him at the campsite failed and he was taken to the Leigh Creek Hospital, where he died later that morning.

The inquest continues.

They should bring back hanging for such crimes of such stupidity!

14 June, 2007 - 13:48
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Ms Davis said while both men were still breathing, no attempts were made to revive them because the group believed they were having "out of body" experiences.

i wonder if 'astral-travelling' involves a receding light at the end of a tunnel. fucking hippies angry

14 June, 2007 - 13:51

Yeah Christ that is awful.. they shouldn't be fucking around with these rituals if they don't know what the hell they are doing which they obv. don't...

Unfortunately stupidity isn't a crime ...my sis wanted to take her awful ex-employer to a Tribunal and considered legal action too - her brief said "you can't legislate against stupidity". Which is kinda a shame. sad (They had participated in criminal acts - just hard to prove cos they were senior. And they were cops. sad )

14 June, 2007 - 13:53
Joseph K. wrote:
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Ms Davis said while both men were still breathing, no attempts were made to revive them because the group believed they were having "out of body" experiences.

i wonder if 'astral-travelling' involves a receding light at the end of a tunnel. fucking hippies angry

No that's dying. Just to clarify like. tongue

You sound upset - p'haps have some pumpkin seeds?? black bloc [evil]

14 June, 2007 - 13:54

i had some pumpkin seeds at lunch. they reminded me how much i hate hippies.

14 June, 2007 - 13:55
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they shouldn't be fucking around with these rituals if they don't know what the hell they are doing which they obv. don't...

if you knew what you were doing you wouldn't be doing such stupid fucking rituals in the first place!

14 June, 2007 - 14:03
revol68 wrote:
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they shouldn't be fucking around with these rituals if they don't know what the hell they are doing which they obv. don't...

if you knew what you were doing you wouldn't be doing such stupid fucking rituals in the first place!

roll eyes Yeah i know what you are saying.. i am just making the point that i don't care about peeps doing weird stuff in and of itself cos lots of peeps do weird stuff that is not my cup of tea - i just mean if you are gonna do weird stuff then ffs make sure you are not endangering someone else's life..

On a similar vein, saw this doc on hard-core s&m where this guy agreed to be manacled and have a bag over his head and the guy who had tied him up left him like that to answer the phone and have phone sex with someone else for half an hour. The guy died. What a fucking tosser!! Sheesh you are not supposed to leave anyone like that for any length of time yet alone half an hour!! The guy panicked and to cover up his crime chopped the body up and distributed it in the woods but astoundingly when he was caught the courts were pretty lenient saying that, yeah, he had panicked and he only got a few years which is wack (as J. would say!! ) when you consider the longer jail terms others get for way less serious stuff.... wall

14 June, 2007 - 14:06

s&m doesn't have to involve the acceptance of all sorts of anti materialist mythical bullshit though, unless you're playing nuns and priests or reenacting the spanish inquisition or salem witchtrials....

14 June, 2007 - 14:08

they are a bunch of fucking cunts, but don't knock sweat lodges. Fucking awesome bumpkin sauna. Get hot, get out and dive in an icy river - sorted.

You don't need silver insulation sheets either, just pack the structure with leaves or long grass.

14 June, 2007 - 14:10
revol68 wrote:
s&m doesn't have to involve the acceptance of all sorts of anti materialist mythical bullshit though, unless you're playing nuns and priests or reenacting the spanish inquisition or salem witchtrials....

Fuck it!! Ya got me!! wink

Hard core s&m is pretty much all about reenacting the spanish inquisition anyway.. tongue

Even if you would certainly not expect that!! tongue wink

14 June, 2007 - 14:10
Lone Wolf wrote:
Yeah Christ that is awful.. they shouldn't be fucking around with these rituals if they don't know what the hell they are doing which they obv. don't...

wtf does this mean?

14 June, 2007 - 14:11
Tacks wrote:
they are a bunch of fucking cunts, but don't knock sweat lodges. Fucking awesome bumpkin sauna. Get hot, get out and dive in an icy river - sorted.

You don't need silver insulation sheets either, just pack the structure with leaves or long grass.

both parents are teachers, three week holidays in the south of France and now this, you really were a right Blue Petering wee bastard!

14 June, 2007 - 14:15
Tacks wrote:
Lone Wolf wrote:
Yeah Christ that is awful.. they shouldn't be fucking around with these rituals if they don't know what the hell they are doing which they obv. don't...

wtf does this mean?

I already answered that in my long post, babe. wink You youngsters are a bit too quick off the mark at times, y'know? wink

14 June, 2007 - 14:23
Lone Wolf wrote:
saw this doc on hard-core s&m where this guy agreed to be manacled and have a bag over his head and the guy who had tied him up left him like that to answer the phone and have phone sex with someone else for half an hour. The guy died.

puts a whole new angle on 'extraordinary rendition'

14 June, 2007 - 14:30

lone wolf:

no you haven't babe.

what is the correct way to do this ritual?

14 June, 2007 - 15:03

See, this is what happens when you throw "instrumental reason" and "western medicine" out the window angry

Tacks wrote:
lone wolf:

no you haven't babe.

what is the correct way to do this ritual?

I would presume she meant realising that sticking a load of blankets over somebody you found unconcious in a steam lodge (wtf?) and trying to chant them back to conciousness is not clever.

14 June, 2007 - 16:26
Lone Wolf wrote:
revol68 wrote:
s&m doesn't have to involve the acceptance of all sorts of anti materialist mythical bullshit though, unless you're playing nuns and priests or reenacting the spanish inquisition or salem witchtrials....

Fuck it!! Ya got me!! wink

Hard core s&m is pretty much all about reenacting the spanish inquisition anyway.. tongue

Even if you would certainly not expect that!! tongue wink

14 June, 2007 - 17:53
madashell wrote:
See, this is what happens when you throw "instrumental reason" and "western medicine" out the window angry

Tacks wrote:
lone wolf:

no you haven't babe.

what is the correct way to do this ritual?

I would presume she meant realising that sticking a load of blankets over somebody you found unconcious in a steam lodge (wtf?) and trying to chant them back to conciousness is not clever.

Well yeah exactly....how could Tacks not know what i meant??? wall

14 June, 2007 - 17:55
Refused wrote:
Lone Wolf wrote:
revol68 wrote:
s&m doesn't have to involve the acceptance of all sorts of anti materialist mythical bullshit though, unless you're playing nuns and priests or reenacting the spanish inquisition or salem witchtrials....

Fuck it!! Ya got me!! wink

Hard core s&m is pretty much all about reenacting the spanish inquisition anyway.. tongue

Even if you would certainly not expect that!! tongue wink

Ha! yeah great - guessed that would be on your wavelength. cool

15 June, 2007 - 07:42

revol68 wrote:

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three week holidays in the south of France

Someone's bitter cos they went to Wonderwest world.