fuck the arts
Mar 20 2008 12:42
Comedian Robin Ince is right, studying arts, humanities and social-sciences really is a load of oul shite 
Kids, do science instead.
Mar 20 2008 13:05
#2
He should have gone to a university that was more street, then he'd have learnt more.
Mar 20 2008 13:37
#3
robin ince is rubbish
Mar 20 2008 15:34
#4
robin ince freaks me out because his name is very similar to my uncle's and i always have to double-take, even though i know my uncle died decades ago. weird.
ps. social sciences are cool. humanities are sometimes acceptable. art is not an academic subject.
Mar 20 2008 16:10
#5
robin ince isn't very funny, but he's right on this
Mar 20 2008 16:55
#6
Robin Ince rides Ricky Gervais's coat-tails and rehashes his jokes into a crap nervous mess of an act that is the definition of bad-timing.
Science is better than arts - but science is hard and makes me think about how uncaring the world is. Arts are nice.
Mar 20 2008 18:01
#7
After today I have decided that I do actually like social sciences. A very hot woman has offered to help me with my methodology.
Mar 20 2008 18:15
#8
What's so great about knowing how the universe works if you don't even understand human society?
Scientists are such an airy fairy bunch.
Mar 20 2008 18:43
#9
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
A very hot woman blah blah blah
Thats the spirit!
Mar 20 2008 20:53
#10
guydebordisdead wrote:
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
A very hot woman blah blah blahThats the spirit!
tbh i think this approach has led to at least as much human progress as the scientific method.
Mar 20 2008 21:16
#11
Boul wants to fuck her Arts all night long. 
Mar 20 2008 21:18
#12
fucking the arts is the whole point of this thread afterall. it is the 21st century and all that.
Mar 20 2008 23:52
#13
i dunno. science is good cos there's much more money, but the arts are good because poverty teaches you nobility.
Mar 20 2008 23:54
#14
Fuck off!
Mar 21 2008 00:00
#15
oh ladeda. you can only say that too me because you have a big house in the country 
Mar 21 2008 00:01
#16
ps mel feck aff
Mar 21 2008 00:03
#17
Mar 21 2008 00:06
#18
look you're allowed to tell the rich to fuck off, that's part of life. but that sort of unfriendly flaming isn't on imo.
Mar 21 2008 00:15
#19
Sorry for being unfriendly but I've no wine left and the fuck aff was cos poverty does not teach nobility. At all.
G'nite;
boul
Mar 21 2008 01:50
#20
it was meant flippantly, but thankyou for your, erm, "support".
of course poverty doesn't ignoble you, but didn't marx say that immiseration [either relative or absolute] is useful in the development of class consciousness? of course that could be a societal wide condition, and then maybe it wouldn't go against our intuitions.
Mar 21 2008 14:29
#21
xConorx wrote:
robin ince isn't very funny, but he's right on this
Which part, Conor? This looks suspiciously like Daily Mail stylee bollocks to me, mate, with all the usual targets (i.e. subjects without a directly instrumentalist orientation).
I mean, Media Studies - what a joke, eh? You only have to have a solid grasp of hundreds of years worth of institutional, technological, political and economic history, the history of media policy and law, knowledge about the development of various forms and genres of television, film, new media, radio, advertising, etc.
What are your criteria for subjects that should be offered in 'higher' education?
Mar 21 2008 14:59
#22
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
After today I have decided that I do actually like social sciences. A very hot woman has offered to help me with my methodology.
Did you give her a cheeky wink and say, "You can help me with my methodology any time you like, love?"
Mar 21 2008 19:24
#23
Steggsie wrote:
xConorx wrote:
robin ince isn't very funny, but he's right on thisWhich part, Conor? This looks suspiciously like Daily Mail stylee bollocks to me, mate, with all the usual targets (i.e. subjects without a directly instrumentalist orientation).
I mean, Media Studies - what a joke, eh? You only have to have a solid grasp of hundreds of years worth of institutional, technological, political and economic history, the history of media policy and law, knowledge about the development of various forms and genres of television, film, new media, radio, advertising, etc.
What are your criteria for subjects that should be offered in 'higher' education?
Eh most of it cos it's just pure wank. and I'm somebody with a MA in sociology and doing a phd in eduction and even I think what I'm doing is utter wank.
Ince is saying at all that arts/humanities/soc.science shouldn't be in higher education - he's offering a personal perspective saying he wished he studied science instead of literature.
I wouldn't get too worked-up about it mate.
Mar 22 2008 03:42
#24
What Conor means is that instead of opening his mind he wishes that that he'd better prepared his mind to give the bosses what they wanted. It's working class self improvement made real.
Mar 22 2008 07:59
#25
I love sociology, it tells you how fucked up everyone is and how fucking intense it would be if we all fucked our teachers.
Mar 22 2008 10:04
#26
jef costello wrote:
What Conor means is that instead of opening his mind he wishes that that he'd better prepared his mind to give the bosses what they wanted. It's working class self improvement made real.
yeah maan, that's like exactly what I'm about n shit
Mar 22 2008 10:45
#27
xConorx wrote:
jef costello wrote:
What Conor means is that instead of opening his mind he wishes that that he'd better prepared his mind to give the bosses what they wanted. It's working class self improvement made real.yeah maan, that's like exactly what I'm about n shit
MAybe you should attend my weekly tie die workshop.
Mar 22 2008 11:01
#28
jef costello wrote:
What Conor means is that instead of opening his mind he wishes that that he'd better prepared his mind to give the bosses what they wanted.
Nail on head. And being a patronising twat in the process.
Mar 22 2008 11:07
#29
Steggsie you tool, Jef was taking the piss. And he's a french-studying type!
Boo fuckin hoo
Mar 22 2008 11:08
#30
xConorx wrote:
Steggsie wrote:
xConorx wrote:
robin ince isn't very funny, but he's right on thisWhich part, Conor? This looks suspiciously like Daily Mail stylee bollocks to me, mate, with all the usual targets (i.e. subjects without a directly instrumentalist orientation).
I mean, Media Studies - what a joke, eh? You only have to have a solid grasp of hundreds of years worth of institutional, technological, political and economic history, the history of media policy and law, knowledge about the development of various forms and genres of television, film, new media, radio, advertising, etc.
What are your criteria for subjects that should be offered in 'higher' education?
Eh most of it cos it's just pure wank. and I'm somebody with a MA in sociology and doing a phd in eduction and even I think what I'm doing is utter wank.
Ince is saying at all that arts/humanities/soc.science shouldn't be in higher education - he's offering a personal perspective saying he wished he studied science instead of literature.
I wouldn't get too worked-up about it mate.
My sentiments exactly. So: why are you getting so animated about a subject you seem to know nothing about? I'm not necessarily defending Media Studies; I'd just like to know if there's any substance to your criticisms.
Science for the win.