Fuck Britain really is going to the fuckin dogs innit?

Submitted by Alan on 7 May, 2008 - 23:47.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7386889.stm

First Boris wants to ban drinking on public transport and now this shit? God what a load of boring old grumpy cunts...

EDIT: Incidentally, yes I like using fascist language out of context, kinda like this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k357ErdUQyk

7 May, 2008 - 23:53

I suppose you'd have everyone going around glassing old ladies and giving toddlers crack then?
Yeah, your britiain would be amazing, maaan,

8 May, 2008 - 00:01

If only there was some more relaxed country in the world, where the locals had a chilled "Manana" attitude, and a penchant for big hats. sad

8 May, 2008 - 00:06

I like that this totally went against the advisory council. is there a more obvious way to show that you don't actually give a fuck about people's health and are just doing it to gain middle england political ground?

8 May, 2008 - 00:44
the button wrote:
If only there was some more relaxed country in the world, where the locals had a chilled "Manana" attitude, and a penchant for big hats. sad

I'm certain such a place exists, although I've yet to locate it.

8 May, 2008 - 00:47

Yeah blatant post-local election attempt to win back a few petty points against whats looking like an inevitable tory victory in a few years time.

8 May, 2008 - 00:52
Alan wrote:
FREE TEH PAEDOZ!!1

roll eyes

8 May, 2008 - 00:54

serious, why don't you all just go out stabbing bus drivers and glassing single mothers right now!

8 May, 2008 - 01:02

He'd get banged up in one of Boris' weekend bootcamps for miscreant youth. Quite right too, I say. cool

8 May, 2008 - 01:03

If Jack was mayor of London he wouldn't tolerate this nonsense.

8 May, 2008 - 01:08

I'm glad someone is finally coming up with sensible ideas.

8 May, 2008 - 01:10

Jack would be a fucking brilliant mayor of London. He has the common touch, and the ability to communicate his ideas to a wide audience. Such as the memorable occasion when an old lady screwed up one of his Starbucks leaflets and threw it back in his face. Or the masterful way he dealt with the guy who wouldn't take a leaflet about the closure of Lewisham Post Office -- "Sorry, mate, I didn't realise you were a paedo." cool

8 May, 2008 - 05:29

It's just swag and I reckon it's the last straw on the weed economy that will finally push a 1/8 of skunk above the magic threshold of £20. Inflation's long overdue in that industry, if I studied economics I'd be trying to explain just why that is.

8 May, 2008 - 07:21

It's a shame that the government is once again cracking down on small businessmen. You think Boris would be championing the interests of entrepreneurs and hoping to help them move into the export market and try to improve Britain's trade deficit. It's another example of the anti-business culture that is holding back innovation in this country.

8 May, 2008 - 08:48

People that smoke cannabis are usually just really boring, a bit of psychosis might liven things up a bit.

8 May, 2008 - 11:52
Jess wrote:
People that smoke cannabis are usually just really boring, a bit of psychosis might liven things up a bit.

x2

8 May, 2008 - 11:55

From what little I remember of being stoned at uni I was proper entertaining cool

8 May, 2008 - 12:15

Wasen't the new reclassification pushed through on the back of cutting down on super strength skunk?? I'm confused though (seriously since I don't smoke), but I would of thought you would of just had to smoke less skunk to get the same high, or is it some super really potent new type?

8 May, 2008 - 12:29
Quote:
Or the masterful way he dealt with the guy who wouldn't take a leaflet about the closure of Lewisham Post Office -- "Sorry, mate, I didn't realise you were a paedo."

Ever thought of joining the IWW?

8 May, 2008 - 12:50
powertotheimagination wrote:
Wasen't the new reclassification pushed through on the back of cutting down on super strength skunk?? I'm confused though (seriously since I don't smoke), but I would of thought you would of just had to smoke less skunk to get the same high, or is it some super really potent new type?

it's just straight bullshit. "skunk" is a particular strain, for some reason the media picked up on this one particular word and decided to roll with it.

8 May, 2008 - 13:25
Quote:
it's just straight bullshit. "skunk" is a particular strain, for some reason the media picked up on this one particular word and decided to roll with it.

I can understand the need to have a quick and easy thing to latch on to but I don't know if this strain is a heavier sort or not, i'd assume weed is like other drugs and their different potencies (due to a variety of reasons). I don't believe all the hype around it, but i've personally seen the effect prolonged weed effect can have on people and it does have a level of danger to it, still I disagree with the reclassifiction, and the sheer fact the goverment stuck two fingers upto the committes report which told them not to shows just where certain peoples priorities lie.

8 May, 2008 - 17:03
guydebordisdead wrote:
Jess wrote:
People that smoke cannabis are usually just really boring, a bit of psychosis might liven things up a bit.

x2

x3

9 May, 2008 - 12:40

Weed has a lot of medical applications which compared to some prescription drugs the side effects are minimal. Considering some prescription drugs can come listed with side effects ranging from fatigue, nausea, vomiting, decreased blood cell counts, hair loss, sores and mental problems it seems daft to completely cut out weed from the medical environment.

As a recreational drug it can easily be compared to alcohol. Alcohol has evidence of causing liver disease, brain damage, increased risks of cancer, heart palpitations etc. Weed has evidence of causing lung damage, increased risk of cancer, mental problems etc.

They don’t seem that different when you look at the suspected risks they are reporting from both, also as a recreational drug the acute toxicity of cannabis is very low; no-one has ever died as a direct and immediate consequence of recreational or medical use the same can’t be said for alcohol with alcohol poisoning.

Now day’s though practically everything is bad for you the health fanatics say from eggs and milk to weed and alcohol. Remember eating food can cause an increase of heart disease, obesity, lung and stomach damage among other more serious side effects!

The whole reclassifications just politicising so that the govt can say look how tough we are were fighting crime like superman!

9 May, 2008 - 13:52

I don't care if it's worse than alcohol or not though, it's just that I don't think people should be given criminal records for doing what they choose to to their own bodies. Dealing's obviously a bit of a different matter, but most weed dealers are just small time who only deal with that anyway. it's coke and whatnot that has all the ties to more extreme criminal activity - and even then it's the fact it's illegal that puts it there.

10 May, 2008 - 01:30

Bob you can't deny that recent scientific developments motivated by the lucrativity of the market for weed has made it much stronger. The article claims skunk now accounts for the vast majority of marijuana in the UK. Perhaps it's just a semantic change (I call it all weed anyway) or perhaps it refers to hydrophonics. All I know is I remember being 16 and anything green being a novelty...instead we'd smoke that godawful vinyl plastic that made you feel ill and gave you a headache.

Power - given how varied the effects of weed is depending on a whole bunch of variables (one of which is strength), I'm not sure you could talk about just being high or more high. Some stuff (which I would call skunk or hydrophonic) will make you spin out (I remember a certain Libcom poster blackign out in my kitchen not so long ago, making my housemate dial two 9s if you get me) or tremble etc etc while other stuff will just send you to sleep. Most stuff sits with me pretty well, but then again I'm one of the few people who never really experienced many problems with the shit.

As a bitchy sidenote, the allday Libcommunity posters making pronouncements about others being "boring" is quite something really.

10 May, 2008 - 01:33
Alan wrote:
EDIT: Incidentally, yes I like using fascist language out of context, kinda like this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k357ErdUQyk

Noone found this worthy of comment?

10 May, 2008 - 01:57

Nah don't get me wrong, weed probably is stronger these days (i wasn't alive in the 60s so i don't actually know). And a LOT of people shouldn't smoke it because it'll fuck them up. like you, i've never had any problems from smoking weed. besides, y'know, a lack of motivation. but i don't think i had that to begin with.

i was just saying, like, just because it fucks SOME people up is no reason to make illegal. even if it fucked up EVERYone who took it it'd still not be a reason to make it illegal. and as someone who smokes on the regular, and knows people who deal, it's a fucking worrying precedant. i've got friends who are plenty paro as it is (uh, not paranoid FROM smoking weed, although no doubt that contributes), i don't need my hookups going cold on me!

10 May, 2008 - 02:26

The most paranoid people I know are the rigid anti-smokers, anti-drinker types whose heads are full of Daily Mail horror stories and pure misinformation on the topic. They're also the some of the most antisocial people I know. I'd say the pothead lack of motivation is largely justified anyway, if pushed I might try and add in a class analysis. But then Interesting, Funny, Varied People With Lots of Mates like Jack and Jess will make one of their 3 posts and any sort of reasoned, informative debate (or scientific contributions from someone aspiring to be a doctor of science) on a substance that's used by a huge proportion of our generation will be shut down.

10 May, 2008 - 02:27

Incidentally, 3:30am over there right? How's that post-boozeup fuckhowcomeIdidntpull joint going down Bob? You feeling spinny yet?

10 May, 2008 - 09:36

Doctor in education actually.
Have to lol at you posting this in libcommunity expecting serious discussion.

I am going to stab the next person I see smoking a joint. Wankers.

10 May, 2008 - 15:09
Alan wrote:
Alan wrote:
EDIT: Incidentally, yes I like using fascist language out of context, kinda like this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k357ErdUQyk

Noone found this worthy of comment?

I can correct the spelling mistakes in the subtitles if you like.