This has happened numerous times when people want to get into gigs for free, especially big events. Due to the nature of the anarchist movement in greece there is a confidence to do things like this. On a similar note a famous American "punk" band had to cancel their tour due to Greek anarchists attacking one venue in Athens. It was over the fact that the band (whose name I forget) had just played for the US troops in Iraq.
Raw
also seen it here http://caraivp.blogbill.com/
It was THE VANDALS.....he's from the site: http://www.punkupdates.com/reviews.php?id=824
"The Vandals just finished their European tour in Greece. A show they will always remember! Since... it never happened!
The Vandals were having big trouble with boycotts over Iraq in Italy and in Greece. But still they went…..
They were barricaded inside the club in Athens. The show was cancelled.
And they had to stay in there for hours until the 500 protestors outside that wanted to kill them disperse.
The Vandals were very sad over this since they do not mix politics with music.
They say: For 24 years we have been an independent punk band playing songs about haircuts, food, and diarrhea, etc.
We went to Iraq on a non political mission to help soldiers who do not want to be in Iraq fighting in a dangerous war over the holidays far far away from their families. This is the same thing the Red Cross does. No politics, just aide.
The military has a big problem with suicides during the holidays so they asked a few bands to come over and play some music to make their Christmas and New Years tolerable, not to support the war.
We gave up our holidays with our families to do this because we know the soldiers don't want to be there. To refuse would make a bad situation for them even worse.
We get many letters from soldiers complaining about the loneliness in military bases and about how the government only sends country and western bands to them, never a punk rock band. Like America, the U.S. military is divided: some support the war, but many are against the war.
We are dedicated to punk rock so we went to play for the many punk rockers who are stuck in Iraq and Kuwait. Punk rock is our mission, not politics and not war.
We are not the spokes people for George Bush or any other political force. We are only the Vandals. Please do not try to use us for any political purpose."
And a comment:
The difference is that the Red Cross also helps Iraqi casualties. Who's gonna send THEM someone to get over their sorrow? These people didn't even choose to die themselves, they just get killed by these soldiers. And I still find it a rather lame excuse to not take a stand whatsoever about the issue. It's not like they say they are opposed to the US involvement in that message, which makes me believe they actually aren't, considering their collection of honorable photographs and more. Anyway, I personally think it's not a good thing they get barricaded for this in a club, but on the other hand there has to be done something to get this out to the public.
Every time you post, I try convince myself you don't actually mean what you say. But then I re-read it, and remember that we're not exagerrating, and yor politics actually are this shit.
Who posts? are you refering to me? I just copied that from a website (including the comment).
Yeah, i just thought it was mad. Cheers for putting it in context raw but the context just makes me surer that bourgeois influnces on anarchism should be required reading for anyone interested in anarchism, or at least it should be put to a shity punk song.
underworld fucking rock live
Yep, They do. Going to see them on thursday and it was when i was trying to figure out what they have being doing for the last 3 years that i came across this.
repeat until gets stuck in your head and you mistake that for liking it
Isn't that Underworld's tactic? Yeah man, like mega mega white thing, remember the good ol' days before the Criminal Justice Bill?
I've been waiting a while to out you as a lifestylist. Fuck off and dig up a road somewhere Swampy. 
you have no appreciation of the difference immanent to repetition. i've got more refined taste in repetitive beats than your average crusty anyway
of course since i'm the one who claims certain genres of music have an inherent link to politics, i must be the lifestylist, you've got me there.
Jack wrote:
Every time you post, I try convince myself you don't actually mean what you say. But then I re-read it, and remember that we're not exagerrating, and yor politics actually are this shit.Who posts? are you refering to me? I just copied that from a website (including the comment).
which was fucking obvious too. Could've used
quote
function though.
underworld - very credible uk techno outfit. Comparisons to faithless of the chemical brothers or fatboy slim etc. simply reveals a knowledge of dance music that goes no further than the window displays of Virgin Megastore.
which was fucking obvious too. Could've used
Quote:
quotefunction though.
Or not signed it as raw, perhaps?
This has happened numerous times when people want to get into gigs for free, especially big events. Due to the nature of the anarchist movement in greece there is a confidence to do things like this. On a similar note a famous American "punk" band had to cancel their tour due to Greek anarchists attacking one venue in Athens. It was over the fact that the band (whose name I forget) had just played for the US troops in Iraq.raw
Tacks wrote:
which was fucking obvious too. Could've used
Quote:
quotefunction though.
Or not signed it as raw, perhaps?
Quote:
This has happened numerous times when people want to get into gigs for free, especially big events. Due to the nature of the anarchist movement in greece there is a confidence to do things like this. On a similar note a famous American "punk" band had to cancel their tour due to Greek anarchists attacking one venue in Athens. It was over the fact that the band (whose name I forget) had just played for the US troops in Iraq.raw
no no no - that IS raw.
In a completely separate post he says
It was THE VANDALS.....he's from the site: http://www.punkupdates.com/reviews.php?id=824"The Vandals just finished their European tour in Greece. A show they will always remember! Since... it never happened!
The Vandals were having big trouble with boycotts over Iraq in Italy and in Greece. But still they went…..They were barricaded inside the club in Athens. The show was cancelled.
And they had to stay in there for hours until the 500 protestors outside that wanted to kill them disperse.The Vandals were very sad over this since they do not mix politics with music.
They say: For 24 years we have been an independent punk band playing songs about haircuts, food, and diarrhea, etc.
We went to Iraq on a non political mission to help soldiers who do not want to be in Iraq fighting in a dangerous war over the holidays far far away from their families. This is the same thing the Red Cross does. No politics, just aide.
The military has a big problem with suicides during the holidays so they asked a few bands to come over and play some music to make their Christmas and New Years tolerable, not to support the war.
We gave up our holidays with our families to do this because we know the soldiers don't want to be there. To refuse would make a bad situation for them even worse.
We get many letters from soldiers complaining about the loneliness in military bases and about how the government only sends country and western bands to them, never a punk rock band. Like America, the U.S. military is divided: some support the war, but many are against the war.
We are dedicated to punk rock so we went to play for the many punk rockers who are stuck in Iraq and Kuwait. Punk rock is our mission, not politics and not war.
We are not the spokes people for George Bush or any other political force. We are only the Vandals. Please do not try to use us for any political purpose."
And a comment:
The difference is that the Red Cross also helps Iraqi casualties. Who's gonna send THEM someone to get over their sorrow? These people didn't even choose to die themselves, they just get killed by these soldiers. And I still find it a rather lame excuse to not take a stand whatsoever about the issue. It's not like they say they are opposed to the US involvement in that message, which makes me believe they actually aren't, considering their collection of honorable photographs and more. Anyway, I personally think it's not a good thing they get barricaded for this in a club, but on the other hand there has to be done something to get this out to the public.
and to give his due he does use an opening quotaion mark (my emphasis).
to me at least it was pretty clear.
what was wrong with the post he actually signed?
Groups like Underworld just remind me of V Festival: secretaries and their insurance salesmen husbands in Hackett tops dancing in the weak August sun drinking Carling and Smirnoff Ice. It's about as stimulating as a Jef Costello joke.
1) thanks for proving my point better than i ever could. You've seen the name on festival line ups and are making your assumptions from that.
2) stimulating or not, jef costello is actually funny. You're just an arrogant cunt.
ETA: no more libcom for me for a bit i think 
Alan wrote:
Groups like Underworld just remind me of V Festival: secretaries and their insurance salesmen husbands in Hackett tops dancing in the weak August sun drinking Carling and Smirnoff Ice. It's about as stimulating as a Jef Costello joke.1) thanks for proving my point better than i ever could. You've seen the name on festival line ups and are making your assumptions from that.
Actually, I went to V when I was very young cos it was in Essex and therefore I didn't have to camp and therefore as allowed to go. I think Underworld played, can't remember though. The entire weekend was pretty mediocre, even as my first festival I knew it was pretty tame. In fact, the highlight was there being a tent with free Golden Grahams.
2) stimulating or not, jef costello is actually funny. You're just an arrogant cunt.
Tacks you'd defend a steaming pile of diarrhorrea if it wore a black mask and a tagged A, I hardly think you're a good judge of this.
if raw is actually saying people who want to bunk into a festival should do so with bats, bars and CS gas then thats fucking insane, i don't think he is though.....raw please don't be saying that
Depends which festival
:-0)
Getting back, this doesn't sound like anarchists to be honest. To attack bands and fans like this, it is perhaps more gang related. The anarchists I've met in athens, even the "gas bomb the bank" types are very social and warm human beings*
cheers
Raw
* apart from the nihilists and "situationists" who are as mental as a goat on acid
More unrest in China following further layoffs in the industrial heartland.
The following is an account of the uprising in Kurdistan in 199, which buries the lies of the western media which presented this proletarian uprising as the work of nationalist parties in the north or Shi'ite religious fanatics in the south.
Golfer Tiger Woods scabbed on a commercial actors strike in 2000 by filming a non-union advert for Buick in Canada.
http://www.mychemicaltoilet.com/2007/06/it_may_rain_it_may.html
http://www.postchronicle.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=21&num=87534
http://blog.wired.com/sterling/2007/06/greek-anarchist.html
Anyone have any idea what this was about or is it just another case of em... dismantling hegemony from below... or something...