Hitchens being subjected to waterboarding

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
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Submitted by xConorx on 2 July, 2008 - 22:56.

I hadn't seen this story, but Christopher Hitchens recently volunteered to have himself subjected to waterboarding. His verdict - it's obviously fucking torture.
video here

Udo_Bukowski
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3 July, 2008 - 10:54
xConorx wrote:
I hadn't seen this story, but Christopher Hitchens recently volunteered to have himself subjected to waterboarding. His verdict - it's obviously fucking torture.
video here

Oh man, how I wish I could pick up youtube. Fucking neo-con twat. Conor: please, please, please post a still frame of the man in pain...

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
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3 July, 2008 - 11:36

Udo_Bukowski
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3 July, 2008 - 11:38
xConorx wrote:

Beautiful. Thank you!

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
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3 July, 2008 - 11:45

Say what you want about his repellent views on the war in Iraq etc, but I think Hitchens can be funny as fuck when he's debating religious pricks in that States.

Udo_Bukowski
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3 July, 2008 - 13:23

I'm not going to argue that point - it's self-evident. As indeed is anything to do with religion twisted

newyawka "They gonna eat your shoulders."
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3 July, 2008 - 14:16
Udo_Bukowski wrote:
xConorx wrote:

Beautiful. Thank you!

oh yeah

notch8 "Incorrect Thoughts"
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3 July, 2008 - 20:06

Why does that fella have a balaclava on? Is it to make the experience more authentic?

David in Atlanta ""crude reductionist version of marxism""
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3 July, 2008 - 20:46

Either that or he works for somebody nasty and didn't want his face shown.

Khawaga " - not a legendary physicist."
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3 July, 2008 - 21:05
Quote:
works for somebody nasty and didn't want his face shown.

Hitchens hints about this in the article.

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
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3 July, 2008 - 22:48

Yeah in the interview he says that people trained in those techniques are now employed 'privately', I basically freelance torture performers.
Who do you call if you want to document how torture is actually done? Well, not anyone employed by government, cos they won't do it, but ex-military private types who have to keep their identity hidden for obvious reason.
What they are doing is probably technically a crime, even if Hitchen is consenting. You can't consent to torture, slavery etc

revol68 ""Identity is a dream pathetic in its absurdity. You dream of being yourself when you've nothing better to do""
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4 July, 2008 - 01:20
xConorx wrote:
Yeah in the interview he says that people trained in those techniques are now employed 'privately', I basically freelance torture performers.
Who do you call if you want to document how torture is actually done? Well, not anyone employed by government, cos they won't do it, but ex-military private types who have to keep their identity hidden for obvious reason.
What they are doing is probably technically a crime, even if Hitchen is consenting. You can't consent to torture, slavery etc

Have you never heard of BDSM?

newyawka "They gonna eat your shoulders."
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4 July, 2008 - 03:04

video of it:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/video/2008/hitchens_video200808

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
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4 July, 2008 - 11:49

That's the same vid from OP - ah, for Udo?

BDSM - wink

dee
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4 July, 2008 - 11:50

And I thought you were so innocent...

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
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4 July, 2008 - 12:08

Oh I am, I had to google it embarrassed
If he'd said s+m I'd have known what he's on about.

Bob Savage "brrrapatista."
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4 July, 2008 - 15:38
notch8 wrote:
Why does that fella have a balaclava on? Is it to make the experience more authentic?

it's like that magician guy who wears a mask to reveal the secrets. he doesn't wanna be kicked out of the torturer inner circle.

dee
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4 July, 2008 - 16:01
xConorx wrote:
Oh I am, I had to google it embarrassed
If he'd said s+m I'd have known what he's on about.

Please don't tell me you got it confused with M+S
"these are not just restraints- they 're the finest, hand tooled leather restraints with reinforced seams..."

Udo_Bukowski
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4 July, 2008 - 16:15
dee wrote:
xConorx wrote:
Oh I am, I had to google it embarrassed
If he'd said s+m I'd have known what he's on about.

Please don't tell me you got it confused with M+S
"these are not just restraints- they 're the finest, hand tooled leather restraints with reinforced seams..."

Genius. I am floored.

dee
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4 July, 2008 - 17:31

I thenkyou. obviously writers block for my doctorate does not extend to message boards - maybe I should submit all this stuff instead...

dee
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4 July, 2008 - 18:08

Udo_Bukowski
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4 July, 2008 - 18:14
dee wrote:

Twice in one afternoon! Superb. The office manager keeps staring at me as I try to stifle my giggles.

newyawka "They gonna eat your shoulders."
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4 July, 2008 - 19:11
xConorx wrote:
That's the same vid from OP

whoops

notch8 "Incorrect Thoughts"
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4 July, 2008 - 20:00

I volunteer to repeat the experiment if the water if changed to Jones' Root Beer.

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
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4 July, 2008 - 20:02

Notch8 - my brother has just informed me that SPAR in Castle Court sell JONES ROOT BEER!!!!
Fantastic smile

notch8 "Incorrect Thoughts"
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4 July, 2008 - 20:10
xConorx wrote:
Notch8 - my brother has just informed me that SPAR in Castle Court sell JONES ROOT BEER!!!!
Fantastic :)

That be only the second outlet I know of.