To be fair, a lot of happy campers are locals opposing the expansion of the runways.
I hate the police [climate camp]
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To be fair, a lot of happy campers are locals opposing the expansion of the runways.
Do you actually believe that tho?
I mean I'm sure there are plenty of locals who don't want the runway expansion, but they're probably not at the camp. If they were, they'd be the ones who got put forward for TV appearances, don't the vile cunt I saw earlier. I've never wished death upon a lefty twat more.
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actually Jack there were a good few locals at the camp the BBC had them on the news this morning.
Really? Why on earth did the campers let that absolute worthless twat on TV then? 
Shit I wish I remembered his name, I experienced levels of hatred I didn't know I was capable of.
To be honest tho, just 'cause they've managed to parasite onto the legitimate concerns of some locals about their houses getting knocked down doesn't make the campers not cunts.
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actually Jack there were a good few locals at the camp the BBC had them on the news this morning.Really? Why on earth did the campers let that absolute worthless twat on TV then?
Shit I wish I remembered his name, I experienced levels of hatred I didn't know I was capable of.
To be honest tho, just 'cause they've managed to parasite onto the legitimate concerns of some locals about their houses getting knocked down doesn't make the campers not cunts.
Ditto.
Wankers.
whats the beef with the climate camp? i mean, i know there is a quota of inter-activist bitching that need to be filled, but i would like to know your real reasons for being so unimpressed
so far, ive seen alot of media attention being brought to the issue, and today on the news the treatment of a girl who was put in 30h police custody with no contact or access to legal aid was being scrutinised as well as locals supporting the climate camp and slating the police.
Oh and theres nothing anti-working class about opposing the unfettered and unregulated greed of the air travel industry...i think the Gate Gourmet dispute is indicative of that.
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whatever mate, all i'm saying is that it'll take a little more than bigoted remarks about "hippies" to sway my opinion about the legitimacy of a protest. Maybe if we all sat and made 8551 posts on internet chat forums we'd develop a razor-sharp wit similar to that of yourself and actually achieve some social change. Wouldnt that be good?! Not a campsite or healing field in place! x
Oi synth_k1d dont belittle Jacks dedication to his keyboard!
While i dont have much against the campers, apart from them being short-sighted, middle class, pompous, patronising, soon to be MPs, i'd agree that when a group like them pits themselves against the police they always get a fair bit of sympathy, i can remember feeling sympathy for ALFers when i heard some hack in the Mail screaming about their detrimental effects on the the profits of shareholders.
Its the same here, when you see Sky News saying how the protesters are basically supporting terrorism by distracting the police from guarding the airport, a spurious claim at best, and how they need to expand Heathrow cus its good for the eceonomy, i have to admit i almsot feel empathy with the campers, thats not to say they dont make my skin crawl.
so your dislike of this particular group is born out of your own personal experiences in dealing with these people and your understanding of their motives?
and yeah, i do think the corporate media shoot themselves in the foot like that sometimes...people arent quite as stupid as they would like to think.
fair enough, really...if you already have an informed idea what a particular group of people is about and you dont like what theyre doing then i cant argue with that.
Its just the sweeping generalisations made by alot of the posters here (and im talking wider LibCom, not just this thread) seem to be lacking in reasoning and incredibly hostile to anyone who wants to explore their deeper sentiments on an issue...
...its pretty interesting to challenge people about it. And the responses you get can sometimes be really predictable/tedious. As someone who doesnt have a huge amount of involvement with all the various groups that exist all throughout the political spectrum, and doesnt spend that much time online, it builds an image of quite an elitist and clique-y area of politics - i'm sure others who follow this forum must get quite a similiar picture. Anyway, just my comments....
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Oh and theres nothing anti-working class about opposing the unfettered and unregulated greed of the air travel industry...
Nope. There's nothing anti-working class about unfettered and unregulated greed. On the contrary. The fettering and regulation of our greed is actually “the problem”.
yeah, fair point...i embrace the various ideas surrounding egoism to some degree. It is something we need to look long and hard at in regards to moving towards social change.
However, no one can seriously be arguing that the expansion of the airline industry is a good thing for challenging heirachy/authority/capitalism.
Well, i know i dont. If that makes me anti-working class, then i'm margaret thatcher!
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no one can seriously be arguing that the expansion of the airline industry is a good thing for challenging heirachy/authority/capitalism.
Ho hum. No one can seriously be arguing that the non-expansion of this-or-that industry is a good thing for challenging heirachy/authority/capitalism.
Thanks you fucking cunts, by bringing using stupid and obviously over the top crap against the climate camp vermin, you're making people sympathetic to them.
What's the betting that as soon as people point out that it was hardly unexpected for the police to kick the shit out of them when they try and fucking occupy runways, they'll be accused of "siding with the state" and "cheering on police brutality".
Fucking hippy cunts, yea what we really need right now is a cunt of crusties and liberals setting up a camp dedicated to making to world an even shitter place.