Ireland, my exit route, and paperwork

Submitted by revolutionrugger on 31 July, 2006 - 13:52.

So my paper work just arrived from the irish consulate!
RR's 7 step plan to getting the hell out here:
1. Get my father to fill out this paper work.
2. Father gets irish citizenship.
3. Pay some lawyer a bunch of money to expunge my record.
4. Apply for irish citizenship.
5. Get irish citizenship, and thus EU citizenship.
6. Provincial green island with no abortion rights that LAST place i'm headed.
7. Welkommen nach Berlin Herr Leach!

31 July, 2006 - 13:58

i think it's willkommen, but otherwise its certainly a plan wink

31 July, 2006 - 14:16

embarrassed

I have to go beat myself with a large wooden spoon now.
"Ich muss mir schlagen sich"

Is that right? Damn it my Oma's gonna kill me. 8 years of german lessons completly spilled out of my head....

31 July, 2006 - 14:22
revolutionrugger wrote:
Is that right?

not a clue, its a long time since school. I can just about stretch to 'mein Deutsche ist scheiße' grin

31 July, 2006 - 15:14

"Ich muss mich schlagen", denk' ich. Kann aber nicht sicher sein. Ist ein Jahr seit ich Deutsch studiert habe.

31 July, 2006 - 15:21

Genau.

You need two words in German. "Genau" is one of them. "Stimmt's" is the other. Use them often enough, and Germans will like you, as they will think that you're agreeing with what they say.

31 July, 2006 - 16:58

Don't forget the most important german verb around. "aufheben"

31 July, 2006 - 18:13

I bet you can't translate that in 5 words or less.

31 July, 2006 - 18:18
Jack wrote:
I bet you can't translate that in 5 words or less.

= red star +

although if a pictures worth a thousand words i just went 1995 words over sad

31 July, 2006 - 18:24

revol68's ass.

or preservation through negation.

31 July, 2006 - 18:37
revol68 wrote:
revol68's ass.

or preservation through negation.

I will preserve yet surpass your translation with:

"preservation and supercession by negation"

in your face hegel-boy tongue

31 July, 2006 - 18:49

to you i can only say Aufhebung.

And anyway I'm not even into fucking Hegel!

31 July, 2006 - 20:00
revol68 wrote:
I'm not even into fucking Hegel!

well he's a corpse so i should hope not, and we all know you should never have a corpse in your mouth. You have however superceded his 19th century fashion sense while retaining his moment of truth:

31 July, 2006 - 19:13
Grace wrote:
"Ich muss mich schlagen", denk' ich. Kann aber nicht sicher sein. Ist ein Jahr seit ich Deutsch studiert habe.

Thats right. I made "to hit" a reflexive verb. I guess its a catholic thing. *giggle*

1 August, 2006 - 08:15

du bißt eine Sheißkopf

1 August, 2006 - 08:19
Joseph K. wrote:

So.... is endlessly posting this picture an instance of "bad infinity"?

1 August, 2006 - 08:37
the button wrote:
So.... is endlessly posting this picture an instance of "bad infinity"?

Joseph K. wrote:
not a clue

i counter your hegalian enquiry with my nietzschean eternally recurring riposte* grin

* in other words i don't actually know what bad infinity is, even though it was mentioned in reading capital politically embarrassed

1 August, 2006 - 12:46
revolutionrugger wrote:
So my paper work just arrived from the irish consulate!
RR's 7 step plan to getting the hell out here:
1. Get my father to fill out this paper work.
2. Father gets irish citizenship.
3. Pay some lawyer a bunch of money to expunge my record.
4. Apply for irish citizenship.
5. Get irish citizenship, and thus EU citizenship.
6. Provincial green island with no abortion rights that LAST place i'm headed.
7. Welkommen nach Berlin Herr Leach!

That's overly complicated, i'll marry you up north for two grand (euro) and for three grand i'll be the wedding band at the afters.

1 August, 2006 - 16:02

Jesus, Euro, sure thats next to worthless - its a good deal rr. Don't know if the civil ceremony fer gay and lesbian marriages actually gets ye citizenship though sad

Ye might have to marry a girl eek

1 August, 2006 - 16:36

Sorry to possibly put a crimp in your plans, but how do you plan on getting Irish citizenship without having lived there for x number of years first? I'm sure Ireland like most countries has a residency requirement. You might have been able to apply for citizenship if you were born there or if your parents were Irish citizens at the time of your birth, but other than that it seems doubtful that your plan will work very quickly. Maybe you could try and apply as a refugee seeking political asylum. These days it might work.

If you're so bent on getting an EU passport (I'll admit, it is rather handy to have for travelling and working) I read somewhere once that the easiest country to get citizenship in Europe from is Spain. Just go and work there for awhile under a residence visa until you can apply for citizenship, then move somewhere else grin Keep in mind you'll have to formally declare allegiance and loyalty to the country in which you apply.

1 August, 2006 - 16:40
ghostzart wrote:
Keep in mind you'll have to formally declare allegiance and loyalty to the country in which you apply.

I think he may be used to that smile

I think it's only that easy to get an Irish passport if you can play football to a rather low standard.

1 August, 2006 - 16:44
Quote:
I have to go beat myself with a large wooden spoon now.
"Ich muss mir schlagen sich"

Is that right? Damn it my Oma's gonna kill me. 8 years of german lessons completly spilled out of my head....

Grace wrote:
"Ich muss mich schlagen", denk' ich. Kann aber nicht sicher sein. Ist ein Jahr seit ich Deutsch studiert habe.

"Ich muss mir selbst schlagen." You do not need to say "sich" if it is the first person. "Sich" is the reflexive pronoun for the third person plural and singular (in accusative and dative). "Ich kämme mir die Haare," aber "Er kämmt sich die Haare."

Ich wasche mich.
Er wäscht sich.
Ich wasche mir die Hände.
Er wäscht sich die Hände.

1 August, 2006 - 16:46
jef costello wrote:
ghostzart wrote:
Keep in mind you'll have to formally declare allegiance and loyalty to the country in which you apply.

I think he may be used to that smile

I think it's only that easy to get an Irish passport if you can play football to a rather low standard.

I would be afraid to do this; I am a terribly transparent liar.

1 August, 2006 - 17:37
ghostzart wrote:
Sorry to possibly put a crimp in your plans, but how do you plan on getting Irish citizenship without having lived there for x number of years first? I'm sure Ireland like most countries has a residency requirement. You might have been able to apply for citizenship if you were born there or if your parents were Irish citizens at the time of your birth, but other than that it seems doubtful that your plan will work very quickly. Maybe you could try and apply as a refugee seeking political asylum. These days it might work.

Ireland allows the grand-children of citizens to apply for dual citizenship, which then opens up an application process for the children of those grandchildren.

Claire O'brien (citizen)--->Mom-mom (applicable for citizenship)--->My Pop (applicable for citizenship; basically pay a fee and dig up some birth records)--->Me (applicable if/when my Dad get's his)

1 August, 2006 - 17:37
guydebordisdead wrote:

That's overly complicated, i'll marry you up north for two grand (euro) and for three grand i'll be the wedding band at the afters.

Picture? smile

1 August, 2006 - 18:25
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
Jesus, Euro, sure thats next to worthless - its a good deal rr. Don't know if the civil ceremony fer gay and lesbian marriages actually gets ye citizenship though sad

Ye might have to marry a girl eek

Don't be vulgar.

1 August, 2006 - 19:54
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Ireland allows the grand-children of citizens to apply for dual citizenship, which then opens up an application process for the children of those grandchildren.

What is a citizen? My grandfather was born there, it might be useful to have a second passport, especially if I left off my middle name or something.

1 August, 2006 - 20:51

Put your name on it in Irish if you want it to be fairly different. Better hurry before the passports all go biometic though!

3 August, 2006 - 11:45
jef costello wrote:
it might be useful to have a second passport, especially if I left off my middle name or something.

Or if you lost the original, changed your name and applied for a new one...

3 August, 2006 - 16:45
BB wrote:
jef costello wrote:
it might be useful to have a second passport, especially if I left off my middle name or something.

Or if you lost the original, changed your name and applied for a new one...

Well they show original names if you change it legally. I was just thinking a brand spanking new Irish passport would be useful to have, hopefully it'll be cheaper than the £80 I just shelled out for a british pasport.

3 August, 2006 - 16:53
jef costello wrote:
BB wrote:
jef costello wrote:
it might be useful to have a second passport, especially if I left off my middle name or something.

Or if you lost the original, changed your name and applied for a new one...

Well they show original names if you change it legally. I was just thinking a brand spanking new Irish passport would be useful to have, hopefully it'll be cheaper than the £80 I just shelled out for a british pasport.

The idea is to have 2 passports...