Shit, the ex-girlfriend who made me watch the L-word was a student of Judith Butler and was absolutely obsessed with her and would always babble about how charismatic she was. And then one day I happened to see her as she was walking around town and I was like "that little dude is charismatic?!?!?!"
Judith Butler.
gotta agree with revol on this one. sometimes can be interesting, but hard fucking work to get through. Elizabeth Grosz is more cryptic but somehow more palatable and interesting (think of her as a Vaneigem to Butler's Debord 
). and she doesn't look like michael douglas, which is a bonus.
she is a bit of a dick though, especially all that shite about sex being already gendered, nah don't entirely buy it, apart from a few weirdo's (and since when did politics and the like have to focus so much on freaks 
) you either have a cock or a fanny, yes gonadal definitions of sex has been historically constructed (and now genetic definitions) but there is no reason for what swings between your leg or not to be already gendered (oh and there goes me making woman 'a lack' of what swings between your legs. 
).
also viva the male universal subject, who gives a fuck about some silly bints irrational emotions.
revol68 wrote:
she is a bit of a dick though, especially all that shite about sex being already gendered, nah don't entirely buy it, apart from a few weirdo's (and since when did politics and the like have to focus so much on freaks
wasn't this what i was saying the other week and you were doing the hippy michael line?
"yeah love I'm like male phenotype but I'm basically a female trapped y'know"
xConorx wrote:
revol68 wrote:
she is a bit of a dick though, especially all that shite about sex being already gendered, nah don't entirely buy it, apart from a few weirdo's (and since when did politics and the like have to focus so much on freakswasn't this what i was saying the other week and you were doing the hippy michael line?
"yeah love I'm like male phenotype but I'm basically a female trapped y'know" ;)
nah you just got owned in that argument, cos you shared the same basic misunderstanding as Michael, only on the flipside.
xConorx wrote:
eh not at all you creepy bastard
"yeah we're basically all just like part of a continuum"
na ah, the others are freaks!!!
xconorx you are making a very basic error here, there is no contradiction between them being on a continium and being freaks, the fact that our lines are essentially arbitrary does not undermine the power of our small minded bigotry and ability to marginalise but on the contrary is precisely a demonstration of it's power.
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
eh not at all you creepy bastard
"yeah we're basically all just like part of a continuum"
na ah, the others are freaks!!!xconorx you are making a very basic error here, there is no contradiction between them being on a continium and being freaks, the fact that our lines are essentially arbitrary does not undermine the power of our small minded bigotry and ability to marginalise but on the contrary is precisely a demonstration of it's power.
Actually that can be the abstract for my first entry to The Journal of General Thuggery.
revol68 wrote:
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
eh not at all you creepy bastard
"yeah we're basically all just like part of a continuum"
na ah, the others are freaks!!!xconorx you are making a very basic error here, there is no contradiction between them being on a continium and being freaks, the fact that our lines are essentially arbitrary does not undermine the power of our small minded bigotry and ability to marginalise but on the contrary is precisely a demonstration of it's power.
Actually that can be the abstract for my first entry to The Journal of General Thuggery.
submit it to the editorial committee, along with pics and bank details
xConorx wrote:
I don't like to consider them as part of a continuum - I don't consider them human
well, maybe the xxx and xyy ones, but not Turner's or Klinefelter ones
Ahh what happned to to the Ubber PC Vegan sXer I moved in with all those years ago, y'know the guy who got a hard on for Daniel Quinn and was always banging on about the continuum of species?
What you've got to understand is that it's all on a continuum and it is precisely our ability to violently butcher this continuum into various cuts that gives our bigotry and intolerance such strength precisely because it requires nothing so pathetic as a fundamental grounding but is instead self creating. In this sense are the Shankill Butchers not the perfect metaphor or rather the metaphor made real, articulating at once both the serenity and brutality of what it means to be human, the violent rupturing of the universal body that is at once the product and producer of subjectivty.
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
I don't like to consider them as part of a continuum - I don't consider them human
well, maybe the xxx and xyy ones, but not Turner's or Klinefelter onesAhh what happned to to the Ubber PC Vegan sXer I moved in with all those years ago, y'know the guy who got a hard on for Daniel Quinn and was always banging on about the continuum of species?
What you've got to understand is that it's all on a continuum and it is precisely our ability to violently butcher this continuum into various cuts that gives our bigotry and intolerance such strength precisely because it requires nothing so pathetic as a fundamental grounding but is instead self creating. In this sense are the Shankill Butchers not the perfect metaphor or rather the metaphor made real, articulating at once both the serenity and brutality of what it means to be human, the violent rupturing of the universal body that is at once the product and producer of subjectivty.
Pull yer head out of yer arse before it is too late. If its not already.
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
I don't like to consider them as part of a continuum - I don't consider them human
well, maybe the xxx and xyy ones, but not Turner's or Klinefelter onesAhh what happned to to the Ubber PC Vegan sXer I moved in with all those years ago, y'know the guy who got a hard on for Daniel Quinn and was always banging on about the continuum of species?
What you've got to understand is that it's all on a continuum and it is precisely our ability to violently butcher this continuum into various cuts that gives our bigotry and intolerance such strength precisely because it requires nothing so pathetic as a fundamental grounding but is instead self creating. In this sense are the Shankill Butchers not the perfect metaphor or rather the metaphor made real, articulating at once both the serenity and brutality of what it means to be human, the violent rupturing of the universal body that is at once the product and producer of subjectivty.
Phallus.
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
I don't like to consider them as part of a continuum - I don't consider them human
well, maybe the xxx and xyy ones, but not Turner's or Klinefelter onesAhh what happned to to the Ubber PC Vegan sXer I moved in with all those years ago, y'know the guy who got a hard on for Daniel Quinn and was always banging on about the continuum of species?
What you've got to understand is that it's all on a continuum and it is precisely our ability to violently butcher this continuum into various cuts that gives our bigotry and intolerance such strength precisely because it requires nothing so pathetic as a fundamental grounding but is instead self creating. In this sense are the Shankill Butchers not the perfect metaphor or rather the metaphor made real, articulating at once both the serenity and brutality of what it means to be human, the violent rupturing of the universal body that is at once the product and producer of subjectivty.
Pull yer head out of yer arse before it is too late. If its not already.
has someone killed your sense of humour or are you just being a retard?
the button wrote:
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
I don't like to consider them as part of a continuum - I don't consider them human
well, maybe the xxx and xyy ones, but not Turner's or Klinefelter onesAhh what happned to to the Ubber PC Vegan sXer I moved in with all those years ago, y'know the guy who got a hard on for Daniel Quinn and was always banging on about the continuum of species?
What you've got to understand is that it's all on a continuum and it is precisely our ability to violently butcher this continuum into various cuts that gives our bigotry and intolerance such strength precisely because it requires nothing so pathetic as a fundamental grounding but is instead self creating. In this sense are the Shankill Butchers not the perfect metaphor or rather the metaphor made real, articulating at once both the serenity and brutality of what it means to be human, the violent rupturing of the universal body that is at once the product and producer of subjectivty.
Phallus.
exactly the phallus is our humanity, in so much as feminists protest it they are indulging in slave morality.
revol68 wrote:
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
I don't like to consider them as part of a continuum - I don't consider them human
well, maybe the xxx and xyy ones, but not Turner's or Klinefelter onesAhh what happned to to the Ubber PC Vegan sXer I moved in with all those years ago, y'know the guy who got a hard on for Daniel Quinn and was always banging on about the continuum of species?
What you've got to understand is that it's all on a continuum and it is precisely our ability to violently butcher this continuum into various cuts that gives our bigotry and intolerance such strength precisely because it requires nothing so pathetic as a fundamental grounding but is instead self creating. In this sense are the Shankill Butchers not the perfect metaphor or rather the metaphor made real, articulating at once both the serenity and brutality of what it means to be human, the violent rupturing of the universal body that is at once the product and producer of subjectivty.
Pull yer head out of yer arse before it is too late. If its not already.
has someone killed your sense of humour or are you just being a retard?
Neither of the above. Now pull yer head out of yer arse before its too late. I suspect it may be to late already though.
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
revol68 wrote:
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
I don't like to consider them as part of a continuum - I don't consider them human
well, maybe the xxx and xyy ones, but not Turner's or Klinefelter onesAhh what happned to to the Ubber PC Vegan sXer I moved in with all those years ago, y'know the guy who got a hard on for Daniel Quinn and was always banging on about the continuum of species?
What you've got to understand is that it's all on a continuum and it is precisely our ability to violently butcher this continuum into various cuts that gives our bigotry and intolerance such strength precisely because it requires nothing so pathetic as a fundamental grounding but is instead self creating. In this sense are the Shankill Butchers not the perfect metaphor or rather the metaphor made real, articulating at once both the serenity and brutality of what it means to be human, the violent rupturing of the universal body that is at once the product and producer of subjectivty.
Pull yer head out of yer arse before it is too late. If its not already.
has someone killed your sense of humour or are you just being a retard?
Neither of the above. Now pull yer head out of yer arse before its too late. I suspect it may be to late already though.
do you need the concept of parody explained to you or maybe have the carbon monoxide levels checked in your house.
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
I think Boul's not the only one that needs the concept pardoy explained to him, I haven't the faintest ;)what?
very clever
guydebordisdead wrote:
He has hacked into his tight arse.
Boul wouldn't touch anyone in the WSM; he has at least some standards
revol68 wrote:
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
You are simply a greater and greater parody of yourself revol, no need to check carbon monoxide levels to know that.seriously though has bobby hacked boul's account or something?
Why? Is my grammar and spelling so appalling as to make that statement unintelligible to you? No, so I reckon I can't have had my account hacked by bobby then.
And thank you xconorx, you are right I would never, ever, touch anyone in the WSM, not even with GDID's.
I mean I may be a habitual fenian-lover but thats rippin the arse right out of it!
http://www.theory.org.uk/but-int1.htm
judith butler interview, she tries to clarify some of what she wrote in gender trouble.
Fuck me but she has all the rhetorical flair of an academic mortgage agreement, even when she has a good point to make she manages to do it in the most jarring style imaginable. I'm going through Gender Trouble again and have just been struck by how fucking labourious it is to read.