Links between the far-right and violence...
Feb 28 2008 19:51
Has anyone got links to any good websites/reading/resoruces about the correlation between the far-right organising and violence / racial attacks etc?
Feb 28 2008 20:45
#2
searchlight, stopthebnp, we got some here: http://libcom.org/tags/british-national-party
Feb 29 2008 00:25
#3
*coughobviouscough* books on WWII?
Feb 29 2008 09:31
#4
I think nosos is asking for the actual figures or at least some kind of source to back up the constant assertions we get from searchlight, uaf, antifa etc that when the bnp stand for election or whatever in some place then everyone suddenly goes mental and racist and starts carrying out violent racist acts. That is of course why anti-fascism is more important than anything else.
I suspect the evidence for this is ropey at best.
Feb 29 2008 10:23
#5
the figure always given is that racist attacks went up by 3 times when derek beacon got elected in tower hamlets. Always gets quoted, but i've never seen anything to back it up.
Feb 29 2008 10:45
#6
and it says nothing of causality - if there was an increase in racism for another reason, increased racial violence and the election of a BNP member could both be effects
Feb 29 2008 10:56
#7
it also always made me suspicious that they have been using that one 15 year old example, and nothing else ever, ever since i've had any attention to it.
Feb 29 2008 11:02
#8
i think i correlation is quite likely, but like i say because an increase in racism is likely to both cause more racist attacks and cause more people to vote BNP
Feb 29 2008 11:04
#9
i'm just not sure that "BNP -> increased racial violence" is actually that helpful in combatting the far right. it's got some pretty liberal undertones of "all violence is bad" which isn't necessarily true. as such it doesn't realy fit with the idea of 'class war, not race war'.
it also suggests that it is the BNP that makes people violent, rather than the BNP being a sort of confluence of assorted far right tossers and NIMBYists whose rise to prominence is symptomatic of bigger social and economic problems.
Mar 1 2008 16:04
#10
Agree with above written. Besides- using Searchlight as a source can be very tricky as they are know to manipulate facts very often.
Mar 1 2008 22:03
#11
I obviously can't speak to UK conditions but over here it's not at all infrequently the case that those busted for racist violence have had recent contact with or membership in racist organizations.
Mar 1 2008 22:37
#12
How about the ex-BNP who got arrested with the largest ever collection of explosives in British history?
Or the spate of bombings of minorities in London in the late 90s?
Surely there was a pretty strong far right connection with race riots in the north (hahaha, lovely up there innit) in 2001?
etc
sorry to be obvious but redwatch