Paris

Submitted by Daniel Brennan on 15 April, 2008 - 15:13.

So I'm going to paris this weekend and I've never been. Was wondering if anybody had any suggestions of things I shouldn't miss or just tips in general, bearing in mind I'm going on a budget. Thanks.

15 April, 2008 - 15:38

Budget? Don't go to Paris then.
Seriously go to the north and north east of Paris. You'll find a way to get cheap food around Boulevard Barbès especially around métro Chateau Rouge. Then there is Mesnilmontant where you can go out and find food. Don't forget to go to Père Lachaise cemetery ( métro same name) and have a long meditation in front of Le Mur des Fusillés (it's free!!). Have a walk through the Rue des Rosiers ( métro St Paul- Le Marais).
Museums: Institut du Monde Arabe, Musée Picasso, Musée Rodin, Beaubourg ( centre Pompidou), le louvre is cool but busy and dear, Musée d'Art Moderne, LES CATACOMBES! if you feel a bit goth, Musée de la Résistance Nationale in Champigny ( 88 avenue Marx Dormoy, Champigny) you'll probably need to get there by RER. Musée d'Art et d'Histoire du Judaisme, La Grande Mosquée de Paris ( the great mosque of paris, nice tea room) and of course you can wonder around Boulevard St Germain et around La Sorbonne ( take métro st michel et walk up). The Eiffel tower is shite.
If you are into bobo ( bourgeois boheme) things use a vélib' and go to the organic market place clichy.

Or simply ask Jeff Costello to show you around.

15 April, 2008 - 15:38

Budget? Don't go to Paris then.
Seriously go to the north and north east of Paris. You'll find a way to get cheap food around Boulevard Barbès especially around métro Chateau Rouge. Then there is Mesnilmontant where you can go out and find food. Don't forget to go to Père Lachaise cemetery ( métro same name) and have a long meditation in front of Le Mur des Fusillés (it's free!!). Have a walk through the Rue des Rosiers ( métro St Paul- Le Marais).
Museums: Institut du Monde Arabe, Musée Picasso, Musée Rodin, Beaubourg ( centre Pompidou), le louvre is cool but busy and dear, Musée d'Art Moderne, LES CATACOMBES! if you feel a bit goth, Musée de la Résistance Nationale in Champigny ( 88 avenue Marx Dormoy, Champigny) you'll probably need to get there by RER. Musée d'Art et d'Histoire du Judaisme, La Grande Mosquée de Paris ( the great mosque of paris, nice tea room) and of course you can wonder around Boulevard St Germain et around La Sorbonne ( take métro st michel et walk up). The Eiffel tower is shite.
If you are into bobo ( bourgeois boheme) things use a vélib' and go to the organic market place clichy.

Or simply ask Jef Costello to show you around.

15 April, 2008 - 15:39

shit!! sorry about that

15 April, 2008 - 15:41

Fuck Paris. seriously.

15 April, 2008 - 15:47
heartskat wrote:
Budget? Don't go to Paris then.

That's what I thought.
I wanted to go to Zagreb but my girlfriend was not too keen. It's her first time abroad so I thought I'd let her make most of the decision. I heard the Louvre is free on Friday nights for under 25's, do you know if that's true?

Thanks for the advice so far.

15 April, 2008 - 17:13

Le Mur des Fédérés Heartskat tongue
I'm going to Morocco tomorrow so I won't be around. I actually live in the area heartskat recommends.
If you go to Republique and just walk up Rue Oberkampf and then just keep walking up, even when it changes to Rue Menilmontant you'll hit all the best bars in PAris.

Close to Oberkampf station is L'Abreuvoir, 5 euros a cocktail and they're great, really nice atmosphere.
Further up, by menilmontant on a side street called Victor Letalle is La Feline, my favourite bar it's old school rock and roll and punk bar and has a great atmosphere, it's about 20 foot square and they have live gigs most nights.. If you continue down that road and to the right you'll reach the anarchist bar Le Saint Sauveur.

At the top of Menilmontant where it crosses Rue pyrenees there is a public building which often has fre exhibitions on and is quite nice, there's a nice cafe there, Le Petit Strasbourg,Juliettte Binoche got harassed outside it by a homeless guy in the film Paris.

On Rue Bagnolet (nearest metro is alexandre Dumas I think.) walk up the road. Le taverne de Dickens often has music and is quite nice, La Reunion is really cool as well, very chilled. Piston Pelican often has music but it is a bit trendy. If you keep going then you'll get to La Fleche d'or which has cool electro or indie music from 8-12 every night pretty much and djs until 6am. It gets busy fridays and weekends though.

By Metro Jaures down by the Canal you'll find Le Point Ephemere, bar, restaurant, venue and art exhiition hall, a really nice place to visit, it also has flyers for everything you might ever want to do.

The Louvre is free after 6pm for under 26 year olds. I'd go down to the excavated foundations part where you can walk in the old ditch around the donjon that was excavated a few years back. The Musee D'orsay is really good, you can go for a nice walk along the Seine as well. There's an archaeological museum underneath Notre ~Dame, they've excavated old buildings and foundations and it's pretty cool. it's about 4-6 euros and worth it.

Cafes usualy have a card in the window 'Tarif de consommations' this is the price list, check this befoe you sit down if you're on a budget. Also check the two prices 'comptoir' (standing at the bar) and salle/terrasse (basically sitting down) the latter can be a lot more expensive.

The mediaeval Musee de Cluny near to Metro St Michel is very nice as well.

Musee de montmartre is tiny and not worth it.

For food just make sure to check prices before you go in. Paris bar prices are steep so it's best to buy booze yourself.

shops: cheap = Ed, Lidl, super/marche U
g20 is ok
Franprix looks cheap and shitty but is often quite expensive, monoprix is like marks and spencers so stay out of there.

You can sneak booze into most venues.

Cheap food can also be found around belleville, especially if you like Chinese.

If you want to go to Pigalle area there's a bar there called l'art scenik, between blanche and pigalle (closer to blanche) and that's quite cool

The Anarchist bookshop is 143 Rue Amelot, it's closest to metro oberkampf or republique. it's off avenue Voltaire if I remember rightly.

Getting a bottle of cheap sparkling wine (from 91 centimes) and drinking that on the steps of Sacre Coeur is nice, especially if you piss on the damn church afterwards.

Rue du fauborg St Denis is quite cool in the side roads there are some cheap bars, Tribal cafe is one of them.

PArc Monceau (metro monceau) is nice and so is parc des buttes chaumont (metros, botaris/crimee/place des fetes and a few others)

That's probably about enough.

15 April, 2008 - 17:57

Wow that's pretty comprehensive, cheers. This may seem a really stupid question but as my french is basic at best is it worth going to the bookshop at all?

Thanks again for all the help.

15 April, 2008 - 18:00

Yeah yeah, I was never into that anarchist folklore you know.

You are going to La Féline? That's nice. Le St Sauveur is NOT an anarchist pub it is a RASH bar. Nuance.

Is the Musée de Cluny now free? I thought I heard they ( the State) would give a try to free museums with this one among others.

Another very good bookstore: Quilombo it's 23 rue Voltaire, métro Rue des Boulets. Close to be a french AK Press.

15 April, 2008 - 18:02

You can bring nice cartoon books for adults ( by that I don't mean porn, although you can find them as well) like "le cri du peuple" by Tardi ( comrade Tardi I should say), photo books about 68 ( you'll be there during the anniversary more or less), yes you can go to a bookstore.

15 April, 2008 - 18:15

Ok thanks

15 April, 2008 - 18:22

La Feline is my favourite bar in Paris.
What's a RASH bar?

15 April, 2008 - 18:22

Rastas and skin heads?

Someone put up a big poster Antifa, chasseurs des skins at the top of menilmontant, it got torn down after a few days smile

hope it helps Daniel

15 April, 2008 - 19:24
jef costello wrote:
Cafes usualy have a card in the window 'Tarif de consommations' this is the price list, check this befoe you sit down if you're on a budget. Also check the two prices 'comptoir' (standing at the bar) and salle/terrasse (basically sitting down) the latter can be a lot more expensive.

Something else on this -- some places have a thing where the drinks all become the same price after a certain time, whether your standing up or sitting down. So don't get stung with a big bar bill at the end of the night. If you're in some low dive (which is mostly where I go when I'm in Paris), it's a good idea to have a couple of drinks, pay for them, then have a couple more (and so on...), to avoid being stung with a big bar bill at the end of the night.

I've not been to Paris since the smoking ban, and can't imagine what it'll be like in the bars now. For some reason, the French don't like putting ashtrays on the bar. I've been told off for taking an ashtray from a table and putting it on the counter. Not that that'll happen nowadays anyway. I tend to stay in the Arab quarter (near Montmartre, but a lot cheaper), and have generally been made very welcome. For instance, I once took a booking over the phone for a guy who ran a bar that had rooms (wouldn't quite call it a hotel grin), cos he didn't speak English, and he wrote off my (massive) bar bill. smile

15 April, 2008 - 19:30

Look out for free food on a Friday, as well. Some of the Algerian-run bars seem to do this -- I had some nice free couscous once, for instance. Also, the bar staff will often get you a drink "on them" after you've been in for a while, if you strike up conversation (or attempt to do so). My French gets quite good when I'm leathered. Although there is a phase I go through of an evening when I try to speak French, and German comes out instead because that's my "foreign language." Not the wisest thing to do in an establishment with elderly clientele. grin

15 April, 2008 - 19:44

My housemates boyfriend is Paris Hilton's bodyguard.

15 April, 2008 - 22:08
Jess wrote:
My housemates boyfriend is Paris Hilton's bodyguard.

Serious business?

15 April, 2008 - 22:11

For everyone's information, I have never been to Paris.

15 April, 2008 - 22:15

While we are sharing I have been twice and did not much care for the place.

15 April, 2008 - 22:16

I have however, been to France on 3 family holidays between the ages of 11-13.

15 April, 2008 - 22:29

I went to Wales on a school trip.

15 April, 2008 - 22:30

I went to Cologne for a school trip in 1995, a week after going to see Megadeth and Corrosion of Conformity!!!
A 5th yr dude lent me a Carcass tape on the trip.

15 April, 2008 - 22:34

Wales was my primary school trip. In secondary school, we went to Germany, which is where I bought my first packet of fags. Happy days. smile

15 April, 2008 - 22:41
xConorx wrote:
I went to Cologne for a school trip in 1995, a week after going to see Megadeth and Corrosion of Conformity!!!
A 5th yr dude lent me a Carcass tape on the trip.

And so it began.

15 April, 2008 - 22:52

not quite - I already had Heartwork (LP and EP) and the Peel Sessions wink
he lent me Necroticism... smile

15 April, 2008 - 22:57

button's got a point, although the places with free couscous tend to fill up early. get there for 8 if you want to be sure of a place to sit (and therefore food).
French people often don't go to bars, esp on weekends, before 10-11 pm then they stay there till 1am-2am and hit a club,
metro runs till 2am fri and sat, 1 am other days.
There are night buses but they are shit, ful of weirdos and not reliable.

16 April, 2008 - 03:03

RASH = Red & Anarchist Skinheads. Anti-racist skins...

I went to South France when I was about 3. We drove past Paris, me and my brother (who would've been 13) asked my Dad if we could go in to Paris, he said no because it was rush hour. We were very angry.

16 April, 2008 - 07:57

Thanks Asher. Jef, you were not about during the La Féline/ le St Sauveur cold war? That was bad, real bad, thanks to the Jeune Garde( that's on the RASH side). Believe me, the bone heads were having a good laugh. After one last fight where Julien Brigada got stiches, there was a cease fire. But franckly, who cares about a bunch of SHARP vs RASH?
Daniel is a nice guy. The ladies love him... ( well, I must not be a lady but that's not big news).
Oh and there was that bar not far from those two owned by Serge Ayoube ( responsible among other things of the politisation of the Boulogne Tribune in the 80s), a big figure of the neo nazi movement in Paris. That bar got closed down NOT by the SHARP or the RASH but by the State because of drug dealing and ( probably) cleaning money from pimping. A great guy.

16 April, 2008 - 13:33

Cold War?
I've drunk in both bars on the same night smile
La Feline is a much cooler bar.

16 April, 2008 - 18:19

the cold war stopped a year ago. I agree with you here Jef, La Féline is much better.

16 April, 2008 - 19:15

Jesus, skinheads really are the shittest sub-culture.