People who object to their face appearing on google streetview
Scum. Sub-human scum.
They should be treated as criminals full stop.
Why?
I know you think it's great that google can insinuate its way into every aspect of our lives and violate our privacy but I still don't understand why.
This morning on my way to work i went past a bus stop, and some guy looks up at me as i walked past, so i stabbed him for infringing my privacy. If he doesn't survive, i intend to take legal action against his estate.
I'm also going to start going to the footballs matches, and suing the bbc if my face appears in any footage of the crowd.
consent to being filmed is a condition of entry on the ticket, so presumably someone tried this already, or at least lawyers thought it possible it'd succeed
Is that the case? Even if so any other event where a large number of people are present. Anti-war demo, pride, or even just on the street when a news report is filmed in public.
Bascially this thread is because you're jealous that no google vans are photographin you?
I heard someone complaining that it was a 'disgrace', and since then have been fuming.
If it makes you feel better Refused will probably take enough pictures of you at the bookfair to rival the FIT's collection
This Google streetview thing could be my big break!
Also I'm amused that some people are still upset about top up fees. Is it 2003?
Yea, bad stuff stops being bad after 5 years.
The whole argument was that it would put people off going to university, and it clearly hasn't. No one cares about accumulating debt, and people from poor families now get more financial support than before. Fail.
Also, ID cards.
What the fuck are you talking about? The argument was never about it putting people off going to uni. And there's a tiny increase in money for a tiny number of people, entirely propagandistically. Stop being a div.
One of the main arguments was that it would put poor people off going to uni. Thousands of pounds in grants and bursaries is hardly 'tiny', and a third of people (at leas, I think its 40 something %) is hardly 'tiny' either. I couldn't give a shit about my fees, I'll worry about it when I'm older. Obviously higher education should be free, but campaigning for that is as ridiculous as campaigning for free food. Its in no way feasible in capitalist society.
twat.
What?
Higher education WAS free until 10yrs ago you fucking idiot. The people who brought in top up fees all benefitted from a free higher education system.
Year on year there is a steady rise in the number of hrs students are working part-time to support themselves while studying.
Like you only actually have to bother reading education news to know that everything you are saying is absolute shit Jess.
Research published by NUS and the TUC shows that between 1996 and 2006, the number of students undertaking paid work to support their studies increased by 54% and the number of students studying full-time and working full-time rose by a staggering 86%.
Yes, very good YOU don't worry about your fees, but then, you don't have to work 20/25hrs per week termtime, fulltime during summer, just to feed yourself. And it's been shown that students working 15hrs a week are a bout a third less-likely to get a 2.1 or better degree than those who work less or not at all.
While it is true that in real numbers universoity admissions are UP (this of course means nothing really as many graduates find their degrees worthless and are either unemployed after graduating, or find themselves in employment in sectors that do not require a degree), students entering higher education from poorest backgrounds have stagnated, thus in percentage terms, they now represent a smaller proportion of the actual student body despite a very slight percentage increase 'low socio-economic group' teenagers accepting uni places.
Oh and the average annual bursary you're speaking of that 'lots' of students get is around £1700 - yeah, those students are living it up 
Another aspect of the impact of tuition fees on poorest students is their choice of university has become limited, with more electing to stay at home for uniu because their families can't afford to support them studying elsewhere.
Seriously, catch a fucking grip Jess. This is an argument you will lose. Hard.
I wish I lived in non-capitalist Scotland.
We have to start from the beginning - where did top-up fees come from and why? It all starts from the fact that universities need more money and they need to expand to meet the future of our society and to offer real opportunity to young people.Despite rising student numbers, between 1989 and 1997 universities saw a 36 per cent cut in real terms to their funding per student. Since 1997 we have started to reverse this decline with funding per student to increase by 7 per cent between 2003 and 2006. But this isn't enough: the backlog in university infrastructure is estimated at around £8 billion and university salaries have increased by only 20 per cent since 1980, against 60 per cent for other employees.
This is where the Tories erect a big 'No Entry' sign. By abolishing fees altogether the Tories would immediately rob the sector of up to £430 million. In the long term without variable fees 250,000 potential students would be robbed of opportunity. This Labour Government believes aspiration and talent should not be written off because of an old elitist argument that says more means worse. We cannot compete internationally without a strong knowledge and skills base. Universities are the driver for this knowledge. So, how do we fund this? More taxpayers' money is one option. But as Secretary of State for Education and Skills, I have to ask myself the question is this really fair? We already spend an average of £5,300 per year on every university student, compared with £1,800 on every three-year-old or £3,200 on every primary school child. Universities get the largest share of the taxpayers' money spent on education. My proposals mean the taxpayer continues to foot the largest share of the university bill. But we ask the graduates who benefit the most to make a contribution, rather than asking those who have never been to university to bear the cost.
So how should students make a contribution in a fairer way? This is where some Labour colleagues have expressed concern.
I believe university should be free at the point of use. Under my proposals parents or students who now pay £1,125 as the entry price to study will no longer have to find this before or during their studies. The recent student income and expenditure survey showed many students had to find nearly £700 towards fees because their parents were not making their assessed contribution. Under my proposals that inequity will end. That's fairer.
Graduates should have to pay back only the cost of their own higher education without facing a life-long tax. Graduates should make a contribution to the costs only when they are earning over £15,000. That's fairer.
Graduates will not be charged a real rate of interest, The Government will pay the cost of borrowing for the individual, so no one is penalised for taking longer to pay back or career breaks. That's fairer.
Students from lower income backgrounds will get extra financial support. Money to cover all or some of the first £1,125 of the university fee will continue to be paid, and around one third of full-time students will benefit from a grant of up to £1,000. That's fairer.
Universities will have to make a wide range of bursaries available as a condition of charging a higher fee. Cambridge has confirmed that one in three of its students could be awarded up to £4,000 per year - in addition to Government money. Many people would never have believed such universities would be offering such incentives to the poorest students. That's fairer.
Finally, variability is a critical driver of fairness and quality. I know this is controversial and some Labour colleagues want a flat fee of £2,500. But I remain of the view that it is vital to vary fees from nothing to a maximum of £3,000, across different universities and between different courses.
To insist that every student on every course at every university should pay the same amount would be grossly unfair. This fee would be irrespective of the demand, nature or quality of the course and the potential rate of return for the student. How is that fairer?
Ironically, a flat rate of £2,500, which is the level suggested by many colleagues, distributes money from the poor to the affluent. How is that fairer?
These reforms are a package. Not a pick-and-mix solution. They are generous to students. They are fair to universities and the taxpayer.
What?Higher education WAS free until 10yrs ago you fucking idiot.
Yes but hardly anyone could go.
Yes, very good YOU don't worry about your fees, but then, you don't have to work 20/25hrs per week termtime, fulltime during summer, just to feed yourself.
Seeing as no one has to pay their fees up front, how would that effect how much they have to work while studying? Because, you know, they don't have to pay anything yet? I only get about £500 a year from my Dad and I get by without doing much paid work. Its called debt.
Oh and the average annual bursary you're speaking of that 'lots' of students get is around £1700 - yeah, those students are living it up
Eh, that sounds like a lot of money to me.
Another aspect of the impact of tuition fees on poorest students is their choice of university has become limited, with more electing to stay at home for uniu because their families can't afford to support them studying elsewhere.
Again, they don't have to pay their fees yet, and if theyre poor they get thousands of pounds more a year than they would have before the latest higher education bill, so that doesnt make snese at all.
Seriously, catch a fucking grip Jess. This is an argument you will lose. Hard.
No way.
So you twats think that students campaigning against top up fees ia a good idea? Students campaiging for anything is a bad idea, imo. Go and occupy a library you dickheads.
Yea, students campaigning to improve their living standards is proper mental.
Yea, students campaigning to improve their living standards is proper mental.
If I'm going to campaign for anything it'll be a bigger loan and overdraft. Money doesn't come from nowhere. We can't all steal it from England like the Scots do.
Jesus Christ. So I suppose I should worry about where in the Budget it's going to come from before campaigning for an "unaffordable" pay rise?
lol Jess is just like the government
Fucking hell Jack why do you care? You hate students.
My dislike of students has little to no bearing on the class struggle
Jesus Christ. So I suppose I should worry about where in the Budget it's going to come from before campaigning for an "unaffordable" pay rise?
Well here's the difference. You're a worker and therefore have power. Theoretically you can get whatever you want. No one gives a shit if students go on strike or occupy a library, thats why its such a ridiculous idea for a campaign.
"The university is a factory. Strike! Occupy!"
This is a fuckin joke.
I went to university in 2000, one of the first years to pay tuition fees.
At this point 45% of people went to higher education
Student enrolments shot up between 98/99 and 2005/06 and have stagnated since.
Numbers of part time students have also increased much faster over the entire period.
Jess this isn't even particularly funny. University has opened up, largely because loans were introduced. Not because loans in themselves are a good thing, but simply because they allowed people who could not live off the grant to have the money to go. Incidentally the government deliberately ran down the value of the grant over a few years, especially in the 90s.
If you can't see why loading people with an extra £10k of debt is a bad thing Jess then you are either thick or very bored.
We can't all steal it from England like the Scots do.
You have got a point there, but stealing from the state is a good thing. Unless you're Haliburton.





Can't they just out black bars over their faces to make them look like criminals?