Oh for fuck's sake...
I suspect that it's the same lot that picketted a playboy night at a club over Christmas. Some people just need a little bit of the history quietly explaining to them.
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Tacks wrote:
...and tarantino is amazing and only disliked by people who don't like popular culture because they're too "alternative", and even then he has only agreed to let the studio put his name (against his wishes) alongside a number of films he wanted to have a full uncut Western release
Fixed.
Jack wrote:
Tacks wrote:
...and tarantino is amazing and only disliked by people who don't like popular culture because they're too "alternative", and even then he has only agreed to let the studio put his name (against his wishes) alongside a number of films he wanted to have a full uncut Western releaseFixed.
you're an idiot, it's "alternative" people who really like him. And ooh he writes "nigger" a lot in his films cos he's like so cool 
No, normals love Tarantino, the backlash against him is from alternative types who dislike him because he's mainstream and his shit was everywhere. It's just odd to say otherwise, are you honestly trying to claim he's not hugely mainstream popular? 
He's a better screenplay writter than director, but is still the shit.
Jack wrote:
No, normals love Tarantino, the backlash against him is from alternative types who dislike him because he's mainstream and his shit was everywhere. It's just odd to say otherwise, are you honestly trying to claim he's not hugely mainstream popular?He's a better screenplayer writter than director, but is still the shit.
jack is right on this one.
hipsters hating on Tarantino for being hip is just a higher level of hipsterdom.
Anyone who didn't like Kill Bill is either a liar or a prick.
Jack wrote:
No, normals love Tarantino, the backlash against him is from alternative types who dislike him because he's mainstream and his shit was everywhere.It's just odd to say otherwise, are you honestly trying to claim he's not hugely mainstream popular?
No, he is - he was never not mainstream. Pulp fiction started out massive.
revol68 wrote:
jack is right on this one.hipsters hating on Tarantino for being hip is just a higher level of hipsterdom.
Anyone who didn't like Kill Bill is either a liar or a prick.
Well then I'm a prick, cos I thought it was shallow shite like all martial arts films. 1 was alright cos it had some good action scenes. 2 was just boring though.
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Well then I'm a prick, cos I thought it was shallow shite like all martial arts films. 1 was alright cos it had some good action scenes. 2 was just boring though.
The whole fucking point of it was an affectionate parody of the martial arts genre, something stretched so far to caricature that it becomes interesting again, like how that joke about Only Fools and Horse's and the Bar scene relies on repetition. To say a Tarantino movie is shallow is just fucking stupid, like whinging about the niavity of Amelie or the lack of slapstick in Schindlers List.
I'll agree that a lot of hipsters are anti-Tarantino because it is like a level up in hipsterdom (a la "Such and such obscure band is soooo last year; I was into them when all they had was s shitty demo they recorded in their mom's basement."). Unfortunately, I am up to my elbows in those douchbags, livnign in Austin, which is a big indie film city and once a week hipsters from around the globe descend upon my town and make it unbearable (SxSW). I can guarantee I am not of that camp, however; I am not insanely skinny, my haircut is symmetrical, and I don't own a single white belt. I just plain think Tarantino is boring, and have for a good long while.
However, watching "From Dusk Til Dawn" in theaters with no idea what the movie was about or anything made the whole "They're vampires!!" thing a fun surprise.
Jack wrote:
Tacks wrote:
...and tarantino is amazing and only disliked by people who don't like popular culture because they're too "alternative", and even then he has only agreed to let the studio put his name (against his wishes) alongside a number of films he wanted to have a full uncut Western releaseFixed.
don't second guess me.
I love popular culture and i get all the references he makes in his little collages of movies. I prefer, when it comes to straight up, pop culture films, Luc Besson, John Carpenter, and Spaghetti Westerns (as well as old film noir). When it comes to gangster films scorsese is the best, his films up to goodfellas piss on all of tarantino's "oh my god i said nigger!" 90's updates. I'm also a big fan of korean and east asian cinema, Ang Lee, Park Chan Wook, John Woo, Takeshi Kitano are all personal favourites, but any east asian mafioso or action drama with decent reviews is generally pretty good for me. i like ultra violence, and i like deeply introspective studies of violent people. i like irreverant jarring films and ones which paly with our expectations of linear storylines and character development (Gapar Noe's Irreversible comes to mind). If you enjoy dark and powerful neo-noir and ultraviolence, i'd recommend Abel Ferrara who outdoes T on all levels. Bad Lieutenant and King of New York are... breathtaking.
I do not like tarantino on the basis that i have seen all his films and now recognise all his habits and obsessions, and he is so massively overrsated and arrogant that i can't forget it all and just enjoy his films. When i watvch them i see the fat, loser bore at school who always talked and never did all these well naughty things. Like Guy Ritchie. Every piece of dialogue in Pulp Fiction makes me think of him wanking off with his mates back in his video shop. True Romance i except from this judgement, it is saved by Slater, Walken and the fact that tarantino hadn't got a head the size of the moon back then.
I know you love it, but i found Kill Bill the biggest insult of all - actually getting the actors and scenes from all the films he was ripping off straight - not in reference but straight. It came together as a nasty, mean spirited and cynical piece. Not dark, or disturbing, just lazy, flashy and sordid. The violence was glitchy, cut up and uninvolving, the intentionally 2 dimensional characters boring and repetitive.
overall you can have True Romance and Res Dogs as ok films to watch, but Tarantino as a director? Tarantino's so called 'contribution to cinema'? Pure wank. The man is a sad prick who probably imagines one day getting in a fight whilst jerking off on hookers.
back to this alternative shit: how am i alternative? I have never been subcultural. Just cos you once saw me in a fucking squat don't assume i have an anarchopunk past or somesuch bollocks. Look a little closer to home for people who have previously built their personalities on being alternative and outsider.
John. wrote:
Jack wrote:
Tacks wrote:
...and tarantino is amazing and only disliked by people who don't like popular culture because they're too "alternative", and even then he has only agreed to let the studio put his name (against his wishes) alongside a number of films he wanted to have a full uncut Western releaseFixed.
you're an idiot, it's "alternative" people who really like him. And ooh he writes "nigger" a lot in his films cos he's like so cool
fuck off john, this one was mine! 
I saw nothing of that post before writing mine please note.
revol68 wrote:
To say a Tarantino movie is shallow is just fucking stupid, like whinging about the niavity of Amelie or the lack of slapstick in Schindlers List.
no mate, it's a legitimate reason to not like it. Its like saying 'i didn't enjoy treewalking cos i'm scared of heights'. I love shallow films anyway, as my list demonstrates, but to me his films aren't shallow so much as openly sarcastic.
(naivite btw)
thugarchist wrote:
I like Tarantino.
so? Its not about 'like', this is about people who think ANY CRITICISM OF HIS REPETOIRE AT ALL is nothing but invalid posturing.
You are welcome to like tarantino, i like Larry Clark for what it is worth.
yay for me and my trash taste.
revol68 wrote:
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Well then I'm a prick, cos I thought it was shallow shite like all martial arts films. 1 was alright cos it had some good action scenes. 2 was just boring though.The whole fucking point of it was an affectionate parody of the martial arts genre, something stretched so far to caricature that it becomes interesting again, like how that joke about Only Fools and Horse's and the Bar scene relies on repetition. To say a Tarantino movie is shallow is just fucking stupid, like whinging about the niavity of Amelie or the lack of slapstick in Schindlers List.
Yeah, that was really clever what he did there. Take a tongue-in-cheek genre of films with shit plots, and cleverly do a tongue in cheek send off of them with a shit plot. Genius.
Tacks wrote:
I love popular culture and i get all the references he makes in his little collages of movies. I prefer, when it comes to straight up, pop culture films, Luc Besson, John Carpenter, and Spaghetti Westerns (as well as old film noir). When it comes to gangster films scorsese is the best, his films up to goodfellas piss on all of tarantino's "oh my god i said nigger!" 90's updates. I'm also a big fan of korean and east asian cinema, Ang Lee, Park Chan Wook, John Woo, Takeshi Kitano are all personal favourites, but any east asian mafioso or action drama with decent reviews is generally pretty good for me. i like ultra violence, and i like deeply introspective studies of violent people. i like irreverant jarring films and ones which paly with our expectations of linear storylines and character development (Gapar Noe's Irreversible comes to mind). If you enjoy dark and powerful neo-noir and ultraviolence, i'd recommend Abel Ferrara who outdoes T on all levels. Bad Lieutenant and King of New York are... breathtaking.
Is someone spoofing tacks here too?
Tacks wrote:
thugarchist wrote:
I like Tarantino.so? Its not about 'like', this is about people who think ANY CRITICISM OF HIS REPETOIRE AT ALL is nothing but invalid posturing.
You are welcome to like tarantino, i like Larry Clark for what it is worth.
yay for me and my trash taste.
Oh. My mistake.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/08/380000.html?c=on#c180066
this is full of win and god.