Sokal in Guardian
Feb 26 2008
Alan Sokal, of "Sokal Hoax" fame, is interviewed in this week's Guardian science podcast. Main show and extended interview up.
Feb 26 2008
#2
Sweet. Listening to the interview now. Been meaning to read his book for ages.
Feb 26 2008
#3
May as well include the postmodern generator as well.
GDID - I'll pay you 10euros if you submit an article from the pomo generator for your course, or submit it to your paper. 20euros for both.
Feb 26 2008
#4
He comes across well.
Feb 26 2008
#5
Yes, he has a dig at homeopathy.
Feb 26 2008
#6
Here's the hoax article itself:
http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/transgress_v2/transgress_v2_singlefile.html
From his site:
Feb 26 2008
#7
Why didn't those stupid cunts just hold their hands up after Sokal exposed them and say
"It's a fair kop. You got us, you got us, we've been taking the piss all along"
Feb 26 2008
#8
i do find it ironic that thanks to the pomo generator, the only labour completely replaced by automation has been that of postmodernist philosophers, given as most of them are ex-marxists scrambling around for new subjects to replace the working class.
Feb 26 2008
#9
Can you really call postmodern philosophy labour though? I mean, if you expand the definition of labour to include postmodern philosophy, you have to include taking a shit and wiping your arse in there too.
Feb 26 2008
#10
Innit.
Feb 26 2008
#11
damn, they've got to me. obviously i meant post-modern philosophy oriented to the production of commodities, like impenetrable books and that.
Feb 26 2008
#12
Again if impenetrable books count as commodities then the contents of my bowels do as well.
Feb 26 2008
#13
you mean who pays for that shit?
Feb 26 2008
#14
xConorx wrote:
GDID - I'll pay you 10euros if you submit an article from the pomo generator for your course, or submit it to your paper. 20euros for both.
I have already been marked down for using (correctly) concepts that are too advanced (immaterial labour, wtf?) so I doubt I'll get away with it really.
My newspaper wouldnt print that shit in a million years, get back to me when a baby falls off a bike - now thats a story. Currently writing about a guy who wants a statue of an ancient irish high-king built in his community. Fruitcakes, I love them.
Feb 26 2008
#15
You know my name translates from gaelic to "son of the red king". True bill.
Feb 26 2008
#16
Quote:
A nine year old diabetes sufferer from Lucan is going on the trip of a lifetime to Florida thanks to the Children’s Miracle Network.
Here is my alienated labour, I'm not trying very hard today.
Feb 26 2008
#17
guydebordisdead wrote:
My newspaper wouldnt print that shit in a million years, get back to me when a baby falls off a bike - now thats a story. Currently writing about a guy who wants a statue of an ancient irish high-king built in his community. Fruitcakes, I love them.
Are you sure it wasn't a socially-constructed fall off the bike? I mean, did the baby actually fall of the bike at all? How can you even know? Perhaps it was institutional forces that made the baby fall off.
Feb 26 2008
#18
guydebordisdead wrote:
Quote:
A nine year old diabetes sufferer from Lucan is going on the trip of a lifetime to Florida thanks to the Children’s Miracle Network.Here is my alienated labour, I'm not trying very hard today.
That's a fucking brilliant story. Thanks Children's Miracle Network!
Feb 26 2008
#19
If I can get a press release with spoon-fed quotes from some local politician I'm going with the story regardless of whether there was a baby or not.
Feb 26 2008
#20
Can't you just stick a whole load of lol cats in?
I mean you could just fill the paper and people would never have to read about cancer-kids ever again.
Feb 26 2008
#21
Lets face it - if I filled a paper with lolcats it would be the most popular thing ever. In fact - seeing as nobody knows who owns the copyright on those things once they're online lets just publish a book of them - we would literally make a hooooooge fortunes.
Feb 26 2008
#22
xConorx wrote:
Why didn't those stupid cunts just hold their hands up after Sokal exposed them and say
"It's a fair kop. You got us, you got us, we've been taking the piss all along"
Some have:
John Searle: "Michel, you're so clear in conversation; why is your written work so obscure?"
Foucault: "That's because, in order to be taken seriously by French philosophers, twenty-five percent of what you write has to be impenetrable nonsense."
Feb 26 2008
#23
Best thing Foucault ever did was have the Weakerthans write a song about him. Apart from that he's just another garlic munching slaphead.
Feb 26 2008
#24
As I've said before, Foucault is just Marxism moved from the proletariat to perverts and mentalists.
Feb 26 2008
#25
Those damn sexy mentalists.
Feb 27 2008
#26
guydebordisdead wrote:
Lets face it - if I filled a paper with lolcats it would be the most popular thing ever. In fact - seeing as nobody knows who owns the copyright on those things once they're online lets just publish a book of them - we would literally make a hooooooge fortunes.
Begsy a cut of the monies!
Legend.