Taking up meat again

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Anyone got any info on how to take up eating meat and fish after 5 years as a vegetarian? I kinda need to get eating something before I go to Cuba in a month.

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Conor's chopper?

Otherwise start with white fish and take it easy for a while, buy fresh stuff as well. If you can get someone else to cook and prepare it for you cause that can be a problem. Then move up to meatier fish, like perhaps tuna steaks. John reckoned it took him a week to work up to a pork chop, but it's worth it. Generation Terrorist started eating meat and now his has a girlfriend, imagine how manly you'll end up.

BEEFCAKE!!!

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I was a vegetarian for a couple of years in highschool. My first meat was a giant 22 ounce porterhouse. It was heaven and I was only ill for a day or two.

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Thanks Jef. I know John did this, hopefully he can post on it. Will I have to eat meat everyday? Will my hormones/weight/skin fluctuate etc (not that I care that much, well OK maybe a little bit...).

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Alan wrote:
Thanks Jef. I know John did this, hopefully he can post on it. Will I have to eat meat everyday? Will my hormones/weight/skin fluctuate etc (not that I care that much, well OK maybe a little bit...).

You folks are weak. I don't get sick when I'm forced to eat celery.

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You will get sick when you're forced to have heart disease. Consider it karma, bureaucrat. wink

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Alan wrote:
You will get sick when you're forced to have heart disease. Consider it karma, bureaucrat. ;)

A philly cheese steak is worth the danger.

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another sellout wink
so is it just me and JDMF that still don't eat meat? pussies.

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And fuck off and tell tales to Vegan Reich already.

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Well I only ate fish for about 9 years, but then started eating meat again.

First thing I started eating was bacon, although try to get something decent, or maybe pancetta or parma ham. I still don't eat a lot of meat, Murakami beef and rib eye steak are ok, nice-ish sausages, bacon, that's about it. Can't get into 'pork' (as opposed to bacon) or chicken, can just about manage crispy duck.

Eating bacon five times a week for about 3 months when I'd just started eating meat again put some weight on, although it's just starting to come off now.

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Would rainbow trout be a good start?

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trout's nice.

Do/did you like prawns?

I'd not start with Mackerel or smoked Haddock etc. they're quite fishy (although really nice).

Fish and chips?

What did you like before you stopped eating it?

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Eating is meat is easy. I was veggie for ages, over 5 years and just started eating chicken and bacon, then moved on. I dont understand why ppl think its a problem.

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Alan wrote:
Anyone got any info on how to take up eating meat and fish after 5 years as a vegetarian? I kinda need to get eating something before I go to Cuba in a month.

weak.

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trout's nice.

I meant to start back on.

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Do/did you like prawns?

Not really.

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Fish and chips?

Yeah...you mean like cod?

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What did you like before you stopped eating it?

More meat kinda stuff: chicken, turkey, steak, bacon, beef.

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Alan wrote:
Anyone got any info on how to take up eating meat and fish after 5 years as a vegetarian? I kinda need to get eating something before I go to Cuba in a month.

weak.

What? You into some kinda quasi-religious self-denial AR moralism or something? neutral

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Is there really that little veggie food in Cuba? I thought everywhere was accommodating these days.

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Hi alan,

I recently started eating meat again after 12 years of being vego. I don't think you need a transition period, just dive in teeth first.

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Everywhere certainly isn't accommodating. I've been on a couple of recent holidays where I've had limited food options, and I'm kinda sick of it to be honest. Makes you realised just how specialised and privileged First World vegetarianism really is. If you wanna experience other cultures and travel the world, refusing to eat some meat can be compared to taking a Gameboy into the jungle.

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Alan wrote:
Everywhere certainly isn't accommodating. I've been on a couple of recent holidays where I've had limited food options, and I'm kinda sick of it to be honest. Makes you realised just how specialised and privileged First World vegetarianism really is. If you wanna experience other cultures and travel the world, refusing to eat some meat can be compared to taking a Gameboy into the jungle.

Your transitional vegetarian state will end badly.

Eat a rare steak.

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jason wrote:
Hi alan,

I recently started eating meat again after 12 years of being vego. I don't think you need a transition period, just dive in teeth first.

See I disagree. I took one bite into a lamb curry thinking it was tofu and I almost threw up.

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Good luck! smile

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If you're doing it solely for the purpose of not starving on holiday, as opposed to actually really wanting to eat meat, then it probably won't work out too well 'cause you'll feel more of an aversion to meat if you don't actually want to eat it. I really can't imagine it being too difficult to eat veggie seeing as they cater for tourists and as you speak good Spanish you should be able to just say that you don't/can't eat meat. Punky Tom went a while back and he said it was much easier being vegetarian in Cuba than places like France, and it's not hard to manage in France unless you're stupidly fussy or can't speak any French and go to places where nobody speaks English. There's some good vegetarian restaurants apparently and good street pizza, you just need to watch out for rogue bits of pork bones in soup and that although as I say, you speak Spanish so there's really no reason why it should be a problem. That said, I'm not trying to dissuade you from eating meat if you want to, I just don't think there's any reason to do it if you'd rather stay vegetarian.

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Yeah but Punky Tom probably touched loads of kids while out there, and walked about in public blacked up in an attempt to impress some Profane Existence wannabe he was trying to penetrate.

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If you're doing it solely for the purpose of not starving on holiday, as opposed to actually really wanting to eat meat, then it probably won't work out too well 'cause you'll feel more of an aversion to meat if you don't actually want to eat it. I really can't imagine it being too difficult to eat veggie seeing as they cater for tourists and as you speak good Spanish you should be able to just say that you don't/can't eat meat.

Good points. You gotta get your reason for eating meat sorted. Might explain our different experiences a bit. I agree with Grace too that pretty much no matter where you go you can get vego food. Might not always be great food but...

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Çiğ köfte, don't fuck about, go straight for the raw meat. If you live in London you should be able to find quite good quality Çiğ köfte in the Stoke Newington/Dalston area. When I think of Turkish food it is what I miss most.

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Çiğ köfte (pronounced as chigh keufte and meaning literally "raw köfte" in Turkish, also written in one word, as çiğköfte) is a favorite Turkish snack and a speciality of Şanlıurfa region.

Bulgur (cracked wheat) is kneaded with chopped onions and water until it gets soft. Then tomato and pepper paste, spices and very finely ground beef are added. This absolutely fatless raw mincemeat is treated with spices while kneading the mixture, which is said to "cook" the meat. Lastly, green onions, fresh mint and parsley are mixed in.

One spice that is associated with çiğ köfte, and with Şanlıurfa as a whole, is "isot", a very dark, almost blackish paprika, prepared in a special mannner, and which is considered as indispensable for an authentically local preparation of çiğ köfte (and also of lahmacun).

A favorite way of eating çiğ köfte is by sandwiching it within a lettuce leaf, accompanied with good quantities of ayran to counter-act the burning sensation that this very spicy food will give.

For vegetarians, two no-meat versions also exist. In Siverek district of Şanlıurfa, scrambled eggs are used instead of meat. And kısır, a specialty of Gaziantep region, although it resembles çiğ köfte in its conception, with more numerous and exclusively non-animal ingredients, is a dish that stands on its own.

One interesting discussion on çiğ köfte involves the fact that Islam actually strongly discourages eating raw meat (unless there is an obligation). The argument, as mentioned above, is that the meat in çiğ köfte is more than just cooked thanks to the extremely spicy ingredients it is mixed with.

Devrim

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Well, I'd say if you are going to start eating meat again, go deep.

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Kokoreç is a Turkish dish made of seasoned, skewered lamb intestines. Intestines of suckling lambs (süt kuzusu) is most favored for this dish. It's a delicacy and not a standard menu item in restaurants. It can be found in street vendors and some specialized restaurants only. As with all intestine-based food, it has a long and important process of washing and cleaning.

There are several ways to cook kokoreç. One way is to cook it similar to Döner, but with a horizontal skewer this time (see also Rotisserie). The intestine parts are stacked together on the skewer in the shape of a horizontal cylinder. This sort can be found in street vendors mostly. The stack is cooked by radiant heat from gas fired burners or electrical devices. The most popular heating method is charcoal fire which gives an extra rich flavour. After it's cooked, the meat is chopped and put in a half or quarter portion of Turkish bread (somun). Some add tomatoes or spices in it. It all depends actually on the cook or your own wish.

Another way to cook is to chop it after cleaning, mixing it with chopped tomatoes and green peppers. It's then cooked on a big griddle in large quantities, with hot red pepper and oregano added. It's constantly mixed and chopped by the cook using two spatulas in his hands during cooking. When done, the dish is kept warm aside on the griddle until someone orders a serving.

There are several ways of serving it. It is usually served as a sandwich in form of Yarım Ekmek Kokoreç (Half-Bread) or Çeyrek Ekmek Kokoreç (Quarter-Bread). It may also be served without bread, on a plate, as a normal dish.

Kokoreç is usually served with Ayran, Beer or Cola. Pickled hot green peppers or pickled cucumbers may be served as side-dishes.

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Does anyone remember that amazing primmo film about how great Cuba was because everyone was vegan 'cause all they ate was rice and beans?

Poor Alan. cry

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so is it just me and JDMF that still don't eat meat? pussies.

I don't, but don't feel good about it.

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Do/did you like prawns?

yes he does, in his sandwiches

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nope. ive always been surrounded by meat-eaters, but never encountered someone takin up meat. not really something i would approve of if i knew you personally, but since i dont, im going to but out.