The redemption of Bob Savage

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What did he do wrong in the first place?

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i said that anarchists needed to remove the stick from their arse when it comes to religion and try and just treat it with a general 'whatever'ness. i'm pretty sure i was drunk for most of that topic, which is always interesting. just spent this night drinking all on my own too. it's a good fucking life. well, depressingly good. of course.

then i made a bunch of shit analogies and strawmen arguments and pissed everyone off. it's all good.

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I stopped drinking when my friend went home. sad

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I started drinking when I finished smoking the last of my weed. again, all on my own.

haha i remember actually conor saying something like 'look at bob doing the typical backtracking thing!' in reference to something i said at the time, and me just thinking 'should i not mention being drunk then?'

i don't even get drunk anymore though so it's no excuse for any sort of behaviour. i'm too good at alcoholism. if it's possible to be so anyway.

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I think everyone has a talent.
Are you coming to London for the bookfair?

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yeah i want to. i'll have to see how i'm doing on the cash money front closer to the date. not been to any before though so i dunno what to expect, and i'm expecting you lot to protect me from any crusties (read: protect crusties from me and my short-fused prejudices).

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I wouldn't expect me to be much use as protection smile
Bookfair is usually shit I'll be going to the pub as soon as possible although I did agree to help some comrades out at the bookfair.

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fuck it then i'll be at the anarchist pub crawl and i'll meet you there. i've still got plenty of books i haven't started yet, i think i'll be fine for browsing for more.

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I still need to read the ICC pamphlet on Kronstadt that I bought last year.

Hopefully the pub won't have many anarchists, they are wankers. We can definitely get good and pissed though smile

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Jef, whatever happend to me and you making snide remarks about each other? I miss those days.

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yeah i want to. i'll have to see how i'm doing on the cash money front closer to the date. not been to any before though so i dunno what to expect, and i'm expecting you lot to protect me from any crusties (read: protect crusties from me and my short-fused prejudices).

since when have you been political?
you made a big deal in the religion thread about how politics wasn't really a big deal and you aren't 'really an anarchist' so why would you get into a fight with crusties?

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Conor is bullying bob.

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xConorx wrote:
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yeah i want to. i'll have to see how i'm doing on the cash money front closer to the date. not been to any before though so i dunno what to expect, and i'm expecting you lot to protect me from any crusties (read: protect crusties from me and my short-fused prejudices).

since when have you been political?
you made a big deal in the religion thread about how politics wasn't really a big deal and you aren't 'really an anarchist' so why would you get into a fight with crusties?

But to risk diverting your wrath onto myself, my love, he has admitted to being pissed while posting, which does not always lead to the most coherent responses. smile I would continue, but i have to keep stopping to hold a hot water bottle to my neck. cry
actually, if anyone knows how to sort out extreme pain from a frozen neck and shoulder apart from anti inflammatory drugs and the afore mentioned hot water bottle, plz hlp. will exchange for a drink at the bookfair.

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Religion.

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Oh yeh, all those stupid things I said, I was eh, drunk?

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xConorx wrote:
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yeah i want to. i'll have to see how i'm doing on the cash money front closer to the date. not been to any before though so i dunno what to expect, and i'm expecting you lot to protect me from any crusties (read: protect crusties from me and my short-fused prejudices).

since when have you been political?
you made a big deal in the religion thread about how politics wasn't really a big deal and you aren't 'really an anarchist' so why would you get into a fight with crusties?

i'd answer but i never claimed either things, so ya know.

and crusties just don't like me in general. they just see me as a wigga. which is really quite something coming from a bunch of crackas who believe that their hair is actually suitable for growing dreads out of.

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White people with dreads crack me up. They go to absurd lengths to make their hair do what knappy hair does naturally...so they spend months and months toiling over their ridiculous shit-logs of locks while the reason blacks have dreads in the first place is that it does it naturally and thus is more convenient than the alternative.

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blacks? wiggas? wtf is this shit

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I'm not sure exactly what you mean, Weeler, but 'black' (or Black...I feel pretentious capitalizing it)is pretty much the prefered term in the US.

In my experience, calling most American blacks 'African American' results in awkward glances and stifled laughter at your expense, especially among low-income folks. Really, in the US, the term "African American" is used exclusively by liberals and only by middle-class blacks as a self-identifier...which is precisely why most black folks don't want to be identified with "African Americans" as they are elitist and paternalistic.

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i said that anarchists needed to remove the stick from their arse when it comes to religion and try and just treat it with a general 'whatever'ness.

Seriously? Anarchists need to stop alienating and attacking the people who by far compose the largest group of potentially sympathetic people, complete with their own preexisting organizational structures capable of mobilizing tons of resources to the aid of a social movement? You, sir are a sell out and I question your principles. Besides, the reason we create tiny, ineffectual activist groups is so that we can more effectively alienate and attack the vast majority of working people!

You fucking lifestylist, crypto-trotskyite, fascist, police asset!

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It was actually more that Bob Savage was a posturing pseudo-revolutionary prick who actually turned out to be dripping in liberalism.

Oh yeah the 'eh I was drunk' excuse is the perfect summation of your spineless whimpering, that thread was like 13 pages long and went on for DAYS. You most certainly were not drunk when you made quite a few of those posts.
If you believe that nonsense you said at leats have the balls to stand by it, or at least acknowledge from the start that you were just talking shit.

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But in fairness, his 'a bitch is a bitch' comment was fuckin amazing.
There's no better way to cure snivelling liberalism than just plain offensive misogyny wink

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Word.

Nothing pisses off the idiots and ideologues quite like refusing to give up one's sense of humor.

It isn't that I'm a homophobe. It's just that I'm scared of gay people.

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The thing about african americans is that they're not even black.

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It was actually more that Bob Savage was a posturing pseudo-revolutionary prick who actually turned out to be dripping in liberalism.

Oh yeah the 'eh I was drunk' excuse is the perfect summation of your spineless whimpering, that thread was like 13 pages long and went on for DAYS. You most certainly were not drunk when you made quite a few of those posts.
If you believe that nonsense you said at leats have the balls to stand by it, or at least acknowledge from the start that you were just talking shit.

nah it was only the original posts i was drunk for. and maybe the second day. 'days' certainly doesn't indicate i can't be drunk for all of it. you wouldn't understand.

my favourite part of the thread was when it got like:

'you just use revolutionary chic and imagery but you ain't a revolutionary at all are you?'
'when did this become an 'i'm more revolutionary than you' pissing contest?'
'HA! you liar, find where i've called myself a 'revolutionary' ONCE'

or

'i don't read that much'
'HA! i just found a list of books on your myspace, you DO read you poser'.

'are you actually an anarchist?'
'well i thought so earlier on today but apparently not according to you lot'
'HA! you called yourself an anarchist in a song you poser'.

yeah it was a good read for sure.

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i liked when American news reporters used the term 'african american' for black people rioting in France.

i just like the sentiment behind the term too. 'yeah ok you're american, but admit it you lot WERE from africa originally weren't you?'

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"I'm an anarchist but don't confuse me for a crust punk"

--Bob Savage (a poser, lifestylist, middle-class, crypto-troskyite, fascist, police asset)

I know I said it before...but it bears repeating.

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as long as you know and remember the lyrics, i don't even mind being considered an indie kid.

... within reason, you understand.

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Bob Savage wrote:
xConorx wrote:
It was actually more that Bob Savage was a posturing pseudo-revolutionary prick who actually turned out to be dripping in liberalism.

Oh yeah the 'eh I was drunk' excuse is the perfect summation of your spineless whimpering, that thread was like 13 pages long and went on for DAYS. You most certainly were not drunk when you made quite a few of those posts.
If you believe that nonsense you said at leats have the balls to stand by it, or at least acknowledge from the start that you were just talking shit.

nah it was only the original posts i was drunk for. and maybe the second day. 'days' certainly doesn't indicate i can't be drunk for all of it. you wouldn't understand.

my favourite part of the thread was when it got like:

'you just use revolutionary chic and imagery but you ain't a revolutionary at all are you?'
'when did this become an 'i'm more revolutionary than you' pissing contest?'
'HA! you liar, find where i've called myself a 'revolutionary' ONCE'

or

'i don't read that much'
'HA! i just found a list of books on your myspace, you DO read you poser'.

'are you actually an anarchist?'
'well i thought so earlier on today but apparently not according to you lot'
'HA! you called yourself an anarchist in a song you poser'.

Well given they aren't actually direct quotes you should be careful in case you get torn a new arsehole like you were on that original thread.

As for revolutionary pissing contests, the point was, most of us don't really go around day-to-day making a big deal of a our politics, certainly not rapping about it, and certainly not covering our personal pages with spanish civil war militia imagery and namedropping political authors.
Our politics maybe have a little more substance than than that of a liberal with a hard-on for radical imagery.