Vegetarian sausage rolls just as tasty as meat ones - says science!
Jul 29 2008 20:01
Recognise bitches. A study in the Journal of Consumer Research found that perceived tastiness of certain snacks is related to social values - i.e. people perceive foods to be tastier that they associate with their 'values'
So, a redneck truck driver percieves a 'meat' sausage as tastier, even when it's not actually meat at all.
69% couldn't even tell the difference between veggie and meat sausage rolls, though only 37% were fooled by soy-based hot dogs.
Jul 29 2008 20:17
#2
well, it says people can't tell the difference between meat and veggie sausage rolls, dickhead
Jul 29 2008 20:36
#3
yes because a lot of people are fucking retarded when it comes to tasting things, like dickwads who think Tesco instant coffee is better than proper coffee.
Jul 29 2008 23:50
#4
well given that 'most people' are the people I'd ask to find out what 'most people' can/can't tell the difference between, I'd say clearly most people can't taste the difference by the looks of it
Jul 30 2008 00:11
#5
Is revol trying to argue that science isn't real again? The stuff about values effecting taste perception is interesting. My friend is doing reserach about mood and taste perception, and I had to drink some well gross stuff to get some moneys off her.
Jul 30 2008 00:21
#6
Jess wrote:
Is revol trying to argue that science isn't real again? The stuff about values effecting taste perception is interesting. My friend is doing reserach about mood and taste perception, and I had to drink some well gross stuff to get some moneys off her.
two girls
one cup
Jul 30 2008 06:48
#7
And for the 31% of us with human taste buds, what you eat still tastes like shit.
Jul 30 2008 10:11
#8
To be fair this is likely to be a pretty retarded study, since it kinda misses the point that if we're talking about the average sausage roll you buy in the supermaket then veggie sausage roll manufacturers charge more for their product and thus the product has to be better. Its also aimed at a customer who for various reasons is going to be caring more about the taste.. So obviouly a veggie sausage roll kinda tastes better than pork farms or ginsters ones or supermarket own brand varieties. At he end of the day its almost as pointless as the study carried out by those imbeciles who ''contraversially'' proved that starbucks basic coffee tasted worse than mcdonalds. .
Anyways when i was a veggie I never ate a veggie sausage roll that was good as a well made meat one from bakers or whatever.
Jul 30 2008 10:16
#9
Conor was showing me the study and was well proud that it's authors referenced "The Sexual Politics of Meat", it was a big inspiration to Conor in his early academic career. 
Jul 30 2008 10:38
#10
The Sexual Politics of Meat is the worst thing ever. Oh isnt eating animals bad, ohhh arent men who find women attractive bad. I bet she is a barrel of laughs at parties; "now everyone remember to sit down when you piss."
Jul 30 2008 13:56
#11
cantdocartwheels wrote:
To be fair this is likely to be a pretty retarded study, since it kinda misses the point that if we're talking about the average sausage roll you buy in the supermaket then veggie sausage roll manufacturers charge more for their product and thus the product has to be better. Its also aimed at a customer who for various reasons is going to be caring more about the taste.. So obviouly a veggie sausage roll kinda tastes better than pork farms or ginsters ones or supermarket own brand varieties. At he end of the day its almost as pointless as the study carried out by those imbeciles who ''contraversially'' proved that starbucks basic coffee tasted worse than mcdonalds. .Anyways when i was a veggie I never ate a veggie sausage roll that was good as a well made meat one from bakers or whatever.
lol at Cantdo talking out his arse!
love this bit "then veggie sausage roll manufacturers charge more for their product and thus the product has to be better."
As a wanky vegan, who went through some pretty bad lifestyle phases and I can tell you quite a sizeable amount of veggies/vegans DO NOT buy their food for it's taste , they buy it because of their wanky martyr lifestyles So the notion that veggie sausage rolls must taste nicer because they cost more is fucking the stupidest shit ever. Vegans pay the extra because it's vegan.
Cantdo says - 'wheat and gluten free stuff costs more so they have to make it taste nicer' - see
And to be honest, this has nothing to do with it tasting 'nicer' - it's that a sizeable majority of people can't tell the difference between veggie sausage rolls and average meat sausage rolls (which I'm guessing sell a bucketload more than fancy gourmet ones, then again you live in Brighton where everyone's a gourmet wanker or veggie anyway).
Of course to be honest this thread was slightly tongue in cheek as I couldn't really give a fuck, and yeah, the Carol adams thing is pretty embarrassing - my undergrad thesis was LONG time ago 
I'm still pissing myself at your notion that veggies by their stuff for the taste, pure fucking lol.
Jul 30 2008 14:00
#12
xConorx wrote:
average meat sausage rolls
i'd be curious what the soya:water:meat ratio in said rolls is. there could be a very obvious reason they taste like vegan ones.
Jul 30 2008 14:16
#13
Joseph K. wrote:
xConorx wrote:
average meat sausage rollsi'd be curious what the soya:water:meat ratio in said rolls is. there could be a very obvious reason they taste like vegan ones.
i'd imagine it's because in cheap sausage rolls there is fuck all meat, and the taste is from flavourings and not the meat itself.
Jul 30 2008 14:16
#14
what makes you think there's any soya in them?
I know there soya in the majority of processed foods but why necessarily suasage rolls?
I'd have thought factory run-off would be a much more prominent constituent of said rolls
Jul 30 2008 14:24
#15
xConorx wrote:
what makes you think there's any soya in them?
I know there soya in the majority of processed foods but why necessarily suasage rolls?
I'd have thought factory run-off would be a much more prominent constituent of said rolls ;)
The other thing is that 31% of people could tell the difference, the majority whingy vegans are relying on to justify their shit subsitutes is probably the same folk who drink Carling.
Jul 30 2008 14:28
#16
Meat tastes great, this is a fact any honest veggie will own up to. If you dont want to eat it that is fine but aknowledge that it is yumsome.
Jul 30 2008 14:33
#17
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
what makes you think there's any soya in them?
I know there soya in the majority of processed foods but why necessarily suasage rolls?
I'd have thought factory run-off would be a much more prominent constituent of said rolls ;)The other thing is that 31% of people could tell the difference, the majority whingy vegans are relying on to justify their shit subsitutes is probably the same folk who drink Carling.
you mean MOST PEOPLE CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BUT A MINORITY CAN SO LET'S KEEP GOING ON ABOUT THE MINORITY.
Revol says 'eh I know this one guy who can tell the difference'
Jul 30 2008 14:35
#18
xConorx wrote:
what makes you think there's any soya in them?
cheap protein filler. that and i was amazed how similar cheapo meat sausage rolls tasted to soya ones when i stopped being a muppet and started eating dead stuff.
Jul 30 2008 14:40
#19
Revol, an expert in taste/ As a long term unemployed man sponging off conor's kindness, he'd be lucky to know what the difference between tesco value-saver and tesco finest is.
Jul 30 2008 14:41
#20
yeah but is it actually in it? or are you making it up?
clearly that would explain a lot, but also shows how open taste is to value bias - like when they gave people the veggie sausage rolls but told them there was meat in it they were all 'oh this is tastier'
I loved when you were on veganfitness last year 'yo anyone got diet tips for a vegan who works out loads?' , how I lol now
Jul 30 2008 14:43
#21
should have gave me better tips, like some good cruelty-free rationality inhibitors
Jul 30 2008 14:44
#22
Revol's expertise extends to the following areas:
everything ever
He actually genuinely thinks you can learn everything from wikipedia, thus negating any need for any sort of prolonged training or in-depth learning
Jul 30 2008 14:46
#23
Sainsbury's wrote:
Meat Filling contains: Pork (57%), Seasoning (Salt, Spices (Pepper, Nutmeg), Dehydrated Onion, Stabiliser: Disphosphates, Yeast Extract, Rusk (Wheat Flour, Salt), Pepper Extract, Herb Extracts (Sage, Marjoram)), Water, Rusk (Wheat Flour, Salt), Potato Starch, Glaze contains: Pasteurised Whole Egg.
ok, no soya in this case, but only 57% pork and lots of rusk/potato starch and clearly the flavour's coming from the onion/herbs
Jul 30 2008 14:46
#24
That's amazing. I really did waste 4 years of my life.
Jul 30 2008 14:47
#25
xConorx wrote:
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
what makes you think there's any soya in them?
I know there soya in the majority of processed foods but why necessarily suasage rolls?
I'd have thought factory run-off would be a much more prominent constituent of said rolls ;)The other thing is that 31% of people could tell the difference, the majority whingy vegans are relying on to justify their shit subsitutes is probably the same folk who drink Carling.
you mean MOST PEOPLE CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BUT A MINORITY CAN SO LET'S KEEP GOING ON ABOUT THE MINORITY.
Revol says 'eh I know this one guy who can tell the difference'
ahh conor finally gives into pathetic wimpering relativism.
"If most people can't tell the difference between Intelligent Design and Evolutionary theory why does it matter, if most people think they are valid scientific approaches then why keep going on about a minority who think they are better than everyone cos they can?"
Jul 30 2008 14:50
#26
xConorx wrote:
Revol's expertise extends to the following areas:everything ever
He actually genuinely thinks you can learn everything from wikipedia, thus negating any need for any sort of prolonged training or in-depth learning
You can say shit about taste, you couldn't taste the fucking watermelon in the watermelon flavoured chewing gum, you think Tesco instant coffee is the best coffee and you drink Supermalt. Oh and if you did drink you'd drink blue WKD.
Jul 30 2008 14:52
#27
Weeler wrote:
Revol, an expert in taste/ As a long term unemployed man sponging off conor's kindness, he'd be lucky to know what the difference between tesco value-saver and tesco finest is.
I actually always waste my money on the finest stuff, it was a sad day when i was reduced to buying Tesco coffee. 
Jul 30 2008 14:52
#28
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
what makes you think there's any soya in them?
I know there soya in the majority of processed foods but why necessarily suasage rolls?
I'd have thought factory run-off would be a much more prominent constituent of said rolls ;)The other thing is that 31% of people could tell the difference, the majority whingy vegans are relying on to justify their shit subsitutes is probably the same folk who drink Carling.
you mean MOST PEOPLE CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BUT A MINORITY CAN SO LET'S KEEP GOING ON ABOUT THE MINORITY.
Revol says 'eh I know this one guy who can tell the difference'
ahh conor finally gives into pathetic wimpering relativism.
"If most people can't tell the difference between Intelligent Design and Evolutionary theory why does it matter, if most people think they are valid scientific approaches then why keep going on about a minority who think they are better than everyone cos they can?"
lol at Revol not understanding science
Jul 30 2008 14:52
#29
Supermalt is amazing, to be fair.
Jul 30 2008 14:53
#30
xConorx wrote:
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
revol68 wrote:
xConorx wrote:
what makes you think there's any soya in them?
I know there soya in the majority of processed foods but why necessarily suasage rolls?
I'd have thought factory run-off would be a much more prominent constituent of said rolls ;)The other thing is that 31% of people could tell the difference, the majority whingy vegans are relying on to justify their shit subsitutes is probably the same folk who drink Carling.
you mean MOST PEOPLE CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BUT A MINORITY CAN SO LET'S KEEP GOING ON ABOUT THE MINORITY.
Revol says 'eh I know this one guy who can tell the difference'
ahh conor finally gives into pathetic wimpering relativism.
"If most people can't tell the difference between Intelligent Design and Evolutionary theory why does it matter, if most people think they are valid scientific approaches then why keep going on about a minority who think they are better than everyone cos they can?"
lol at Revol not understanding science
LOL at conor the Steve Fuller of sausage rolls.
yeah but this says next to fuck all, afterall a large amount of people think Harp is a beer.