which country has the shittyest anarchist movement?
May 11 2006
ok, inspired (?) by the flaming of our american comrades, lets get this out of the open.
Which country has the shittyest anarchist movement and why?
And ICC, please resist issuing a statement how this kind of questions are nationalistic and based on bourgeoise ideology and how the most important thing is to defend working class conditions.
take it away comrades!
May 11 2006
#2
Of the places it exists and I know about it, I really would say the US.
Altho barely worse than the UK.
May 11 2006
#3
Finland!
May 11 2006
#4
i've said it before and i'll say it again: South Georgia and the Sandwich Islands. closely followed by Fiji and maybe the Federated States of Micronesia.
although, i've heard the Micronesian Anarchist Federation got over his nasty tummy upset, so he is a fully-functional vanguard again now 
May 11 2006
#5
PaulMarsh wrote:
Finland!
lol, i would agree, but being a nationalist i will defend it against all accusations false or true 
Actually finnish anarchist movement was doing really badly IMO until the emergence of new syndicalist union couple months ago who started their work with a bang when bunch of call centre workers decided to organise under it. Some organisers got fired, some direct action took place etc etc, promising start 
Dont know the latest on the issue.
There is a strong anti-civ/primmoe tendency in finland as well these days. Actually suprisingly strong...
UK has to come fairly high on the list. For a country with so many thousands of "anarchists" and anti-authoritarians the level of organised anarchist groups is really embarrassingly low. Getting better now though since pretty much all groups, AF, SolFed, CW and IWW are all saying that they are getting more members.
May 11 2006
#6
ftony wrote:
i've said it before and i'll say it again: South Georgia and the Sandwich Islands. closely followed by Fiji and maybe the Federated States of Micronesia.although, i've heard the Micronesian Anarchist Federation got over his nasty tummy upset, so he is a fully-functional vanguard again now
Actually, Fiji is a hotbed of class struggle compared to almost anywhere else in the S Pacific except Tahiti and maybe Kanaky.
Though sadly all these movements have been somewhat derailed by nationalism in the past 15 years 
Shittiest anarchist movement by state has to be the Vatican's, followed by Monaco's, Dubai's and the Cayman Islands'.
Regards,
Martin
(Looking forward to the day when tropical islands get anarchist movements and invite fraternal delegations 8) )
May 11 2006
#7
Somalia. They pretty much run the place.
May 11 2006
#8
martinh wrote:
Shittiest anarchist movement by state has to be the Vatican's
Oi! 
May 11 2006
#9
Quote:
Looking forward to the day when tropical islands get anarchist movements and invite fraternal delegations
oh yeah 8)
May 11 2006
#10
John. wrote:
Somalia. They pretty much run the place. :wink:
Naah, they're libertarian capitalists
(Or so the libertarian caps in the US think)
Regards,
Martin
May 11 2006
#11
S.M.O.M.'s anarchist movement is THE WORST.
May 11 2006
#12
revolutionrugger wrote:
S.M.O.M.'s anarchist movement is THE WORST.
SMOM??
May 11 2006
#13
maybe he spelt it backwards, and meant that his mum's anarchist movement is the worst.
May 11 2006
#14
malta?
May 11 2006
#15
soveriegn militant order of malta. a micro state consisting of about 40 hereditary citizens and an office building in rome.
May 11 2006
#16
There is a small Maltese anarchist movement, they seemed to be a mix of punk and AR, but did a fair bit of support for Mark Barnsley so I don't think they're in the running for this coveted title.
Especially as Malta is titchy
Martin
May 11 2006
#17
martinh wrote:
There is a small Maltese anarchist movement, they seemed to be a mix of punk and AR
Maltese AR -- politics with a honeycomb centre, eh?
May 11 2006
#18
the button wrote:
Lancashire, easily.Oh, it says "country," not "county."
Oi! I'll get you at playtime.
Come to think of it though.............
May 11 2006
#19
ok i fucked up, i should have said:
what is the country with the worst anarchist movement you have had the pleasure to be involved in, if only briefly
May 11 2006
#20
Hmm, a tad unfair on those of us who aren't migrant workers or anarcho tourists. (Does visiting people count?)
Otherwise the British anarchist movement is clearly the worst....
and the best
Regards,
martin
May 11 2006
#21
The netherlands is shit. I've heard of one good group in amsterdam and errr thats it. 16 million people live here by the way.
May 11 2006
#22
Hi
Really? Are there no Dutch groups in Pannekoek's tradition?
Love
LR
May 11 2006
#23
I never much liked the Germans...they look smelly.
May 11 2006
#24
Alex... wrote:
I never much liked the Germans...they look smelly.
But they appropriate expensive beef and give it to the poor
Meat, theft and costumes, what more could you want from an anarchist group?
May 11 2006
#25
Jef Costello wrote:
Alex... wrote:
I never much liked the Germans...they look smelly.But they appropriate expensive beef and give it to the poor
Meat, theft and costumes, what more could you want from an anarchist group?
That redeemed them somewhat. But the thought of all these smelly punks just puts me right off. Even the Robin Hoods could have been sporting bumflaps and large clumps of filthy dreads underneath those costumes. I'd like a bit of class from an anarchist group really, what happened to the days of looking smart whilst engaging in revolutionary activity. Bowler hats best come back into fashion soon...
May 11 2006
#26
georgestapleton wrote:
The netherlands is shit. I've heard of one good group in amsterdam and errr thats it. 16 million people live here by the way.
aye mate, i think you are on to a winner. The squatters movement is pretty impressive and the amount of these "squatted social centres", but as far as organised anarchists go, the dutch draw a blank.
May 11 2006
#27
They are well into their squattting there - whats up with that?
May 11 2006
#28
rkn wrote:
They are well into their squattting there - whats up with that?
because dutch are skinflints.
May 11 2006
#29
martinh wrote:
There is a small Maltese anarchist movement, they seemed to be a mix of punk and AR, but did a fair bit of support for Mark Barnsley so I don't think they're in the running for this coveted title.Especially as Malta is titchy
Martin
Malta isn't that where the english middleclass goes to die?
Oh yeah and Denmark doesn't have the greatest of anarchist/liberterian movements - it's very much identity politics
May 11 2006
#30
Alex... wrote:
I never much liked the Germans...they look smelly.
Actually this guy who goes door to door round our neighbourhood sellling fancy bread, got talkin this eve and turns out he was a german autonome, now unaligned lib communist type. he stayed for dinner n everything.
Lancashire, easily.
Oh, it says "country," not "county."