Who are your favorite Visual and Plastic Artists?
Apr 23 2006 11:34
Who are your favorite Visual and Plastic artists?
Pencil, Pen & Ink, Paint and Mixed Media artists?
Photographers and Silk Screeners?
Graphic Designers?
Cartoonists and Graphic Novelists?
Sculptors?
Architects?
Cinematographers?
Graffitti and Poster Artists?
What are your favorite fonts? For reading, and for effect?
WillsWilde, member I.W.W. Industrial Union # 630, Department of Recreation.
(no, really. and it used to be called the Dept. of Amusement... 
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Apr 23 2006 20:50
#2
Not really, it's one (compound question) with a host of subcategories of possible answers. For me:
Heironymous Bosch, Peter Breughel (the Younger); Kandinsky; Max Ernst: Man Ray; Flavio Constanti; Jackson Pollock (tho not cultish, here); Rothko: the Dada and Situationist collages,etc.
I just noticed that the visual arts seem neglected here, although I'm sure there are some old threads. 
Apr 23 2006 21:17
#3
Yeah i like Rothko.
http://www.libcom.org/history/articles/1903-1970-mark-rothko/
Photography wise - Erwin Wurm is pretty cool.
Apr 23 2006 21:41
#4
My all-time favourite artists are frida kahlo, egon scheile, klimt, basquiate and John William Waterhouse. And floria sigismondi is amazing!
Apr 23 2006 23:23
#5
My favorite artists are Dali and Diego Rivera. My favorite cinematographer is Stanley Kubrick.
Apr 23 2006 23:26
#6
The trench sequence in Paths of Glory is phenomenal. No-one does slow and thouroughly creeping dread like Kubrick.
Apr 23 2006 23:52
#7
some of my favorite painters/illustrators include raymond pettibon, mc escher, rob middleton, ras dizzy, zasd+akim, wk interact, piranesi, gerhard richter, the gonz, pushead, mawil, gee vaucher, hr giger
some photographers i like are roy arden, chris boarts larson, eirik johnson, michael wesely, hiroko matsushita
i like the architecture of frank lloyd wright and mies van der rohe
my favorite fonts are generally various south central "cholo" scripts, and old (pre 1950s) german fonts
thats all i can think of right now, but there a billions of other creative people whos work i enjoy
Apr 23 2006 23:57
#8
art is a fucking crock of shit, a play pen for the greatest cretins of the age to imagine they ae engaging in unalienated labour.
Musicians are worse though, cos they get to shag impressionable girls with coloured hair. 
Apr 23 2006 23:59
#9
Raymond Pettibon's work for the Minutemen was awesome, one of the greatest American bands ever, also his stuff for other SST artists, like Sonic Youth, whose Daydream Nation has art by Gerhard Richter, I think. We have some of his stuff here at the MOMA in San Francisco.
Frank Lloyd Wright built a house in my hometown of Rochester, I went to school with a kid who lived there. It is intensely right-angled/geometrical but somehow still conducive.
Apr 23 2006 23:59
#10
Revol, that's possibly the most profound thing I've ever heard. I'll never look at another picture again 
Apr 24 2006 00:01
#11
revol68 wrote:
art is a fucking crock of shit, a play pen for the greatest cretins of the age to imagine they ae engaging in unalienated labour.piss off, as if any other given group in society wasnt full of pricks. it isnt just limited to artists, look at the kind of people that are in the financial sector, or politicians, or even cricket fans etc.....
Apr 24 2006 00:04
#12
Quote:
art is a fucking crock of shit
Not true but there is a point, what one of the original S.I. Ralph Rumney (British Section) called
'Art-ism"
which is well a crock of shit, that is the commodification of culture, culture which has lost its role in the community, become status-symbolic shit. Throwing "art" out as a whole with this bathwater is foolish, but that's what the SI did. Revol's just joking as always, never serious.
I am a musician, and yes, we are worse.,
Apr 24 2006 00:04
#13
Frank Lloyd Wright built a house in my hometown of Rochester, I went to school with a kid who lived there. It is intensely right-angled/geometrical but somehow still conducive.
there are some really neat houses around san francisco and tiburon designed by a guy whose name i cant quite remember. im tempted to say eichmann, but it could have been eichbaum or something. all about the idea of an atrium and using large panes of glass.
Apr 24 2006 00:05
#14
zobag wrote:
Revol, that's possibly the most profound thing I've ever heard. I'll never look at another picture again
ha, you mistake my criticism of the "artist" for a criticism of the alienated shite they produce.
Art can not exist in anything more than lived, contradictary glimpse under the reign of the commodity form.
the art that hangs in galleries is nothing but dead labour, commodified, life reified into an object.
La beaute est dans la rue.
Apr 24 2006 00:08
#15
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Art can not exist in anything more than lived, contradictary glimpse under the reign of the commodity form.the art that hangs in galleries is nothing but dead labour, commodified, life reified into an object
now you're talking.
like a pro-sit, heh, heh.
Apr 24 2006 00:10
#16
damn straight, this shit is just too easy.
of course, a real sharp fucker would ask why the street is any less reifying than a gallery, why is the image any less real than the simulacra that passes for "everyday" life?
Apr 24 2006 00:20
#17
define simulacra, please.
Damn good question, is the street any less reifying?
Quote:
Sony Draws Ire With PSP Graffiti
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02:00 AM Dec, 05, 2005 EST
Seeking to market its handheld game device to hip city dwellers, Sony has hired graffiti artists in major urban areas to spray-paint buildings with simple, totemic images of kids playing with the gadget. But the guerrilla marketing gambit appears to be drawing scorn from some of the street-savvy hipsters it's striving to win over.
Coming on the heels of widely publicized news that Sony music CDs infected customers' computers with security-hole-inducing spyware, the campaign for the PlayStation Portable is being derided on the internet as an attempt to buy the credibility of street art.
In San Francisco, critics have expressed their disapproval by adding some spray paint of their own to the Sony ads.* On a wall outside a beer garden in San Francisco's bohemian Mission District that caters to motorcyclists and bike messengers, someone spray-painted over every character, adding the commentary
"Advertising directed at your counter-culture."
*friend of mine, heh, heh
Theres no form or forum for art that can't be coopted or reified, that doesn't mean you stop trying or deconstruct yourself into paralysis.
Apr 24 2006 00:50
#18
zobag wrote:
Revol, that's possibly the most profound thing I've ever heard. I'll never look at another picture again
I think the point is that not all pictures are 'art'. So what is art as oppossed to non art? And the answer is a crock of shit. Not in that pictures that are classified as art are shit but rather the fact that they are art is shit.
I mean christ Wills said one of his/her favourite artists was Max Ernst. A man who first sprang to prominence as one of the founders of Berlin Dada. The first anti art group.
Saying art is a crock of shite isn't being a philistine, nor is it saying anything new. It's just refusing to recognise art as a valid social category and recognising that art is not non-alienated labour and that the perpetuation of the ideology of art does nothing to further the free development of peoples creative abilities. But rather art does the opposite by positing the existence of a distinct form of non-alienated activity/productivity/creativity/labour.
Apr 24 2006 10:15
#19
alright, pretty much everyday im faced with the question what is art and what isnt art? i dont think it comes down to the specific object or action itself. i see it this way; Art, is what an artist does. it is his/her occupation. So therefore, the question should not be what is art? but who is the artist?
Apr 24 2006 10:26
#20
amongst painters etc i have enjoyed the works of:
ivan generalic, william morris, max ernst, rene magritte, claude lorraine, carravagio, josh kirby, and loads more
Apr 24 2006 17:23
#21
"Berlin Dada. The first anti art group"
Dada wasn't actually anti-art, it was merely a search for new aesthetic values, a project which had been going on for a century, as the cultural wing of the bourgeois revolution. It was an attack on the canonical values of the aristocracy. Which, in 20th Century Europe, is hardly radical.
Neoism, while potentially placed within the same historical trend as dada, the situs, etc, is probably closer to an anti-art movement. But really, such a thing can't exist. Postmodern bourgeois high culture can assimilate any superficially radical art into the mainstream without damaging itself.
The only really radical act is to attack the concept of art and artists itself. And you can't do that in a gallery, or by pushing the boundaries of what's considered a gallery, or by being a "community artist" (how fucking patronising is that, seeing yourself as the enlightened artist showing the ignorant masses how to express themselves) or by......
As Lab Rat said, art is what an artist does, like activism is what "activists" do. Both are bullshit concepts.
I think I'll back revol up on this one, after wasting too much of my life on what I can only really describe as a "crock of shit". Of course, revolutionaries need hobbies, but it's a commonly-made mistake to see this particular hobby as in any way revolutionary.
Apr 25 2006 11:55
#22
hello mate;
al macshoof and his sword made of bricks, keith hallack and the immortal terrier... its all coming back now
''what? what did he say...? I'm ready to feckin die for falasteen!''
keith 8)
PS art? http://www.beksinski.pl that i know through my best friend, Hironymous Bosch, Hogarth, are some painters i like. Oh and Giger, clearly.
I go to an art gallery in every city i visit, often several, and i see a lot of art. i understand none of it, i just like to look at it. Perhaps thats all i'm meant to do.
Photography it has to be Gregory Crewdson, what a don!
http://www.artnet.com/artist/4589/gregory-crewdson.html
Randomartists who do do the Temporary Autonomous Art galleries have a lot of people in their scene who are good, their site is down though.
Graffiti? I quite like TLP. And the stuff they do with paint rollers in brazil called Pichação.
Apr 25 2006 11:58
#23
Apr 25 2006 14:32
#24
yeah pichacao rocks! been usin that stuff in my paintings for ages. check out Keramik from vienna, he uses them a lot too (better than me i must say)
Apr 28 2006 12:02
#25
fair play to you, it is fucking ace.
200% damage. I can't believe no one does it in london, not even in hoxton where all the trendies would get the reference.
Apr 28 2006 20:12
#26
Tacks wrote:
I can't believe no one does it in london, not even in hoxton where all the trendies would get the reference.
I know, who wouldn't want to amuse the middle classes
May 2 2006 01:08
#27
Jef Costello wrote:
Tacks wrote:
I can't believe no one does it in london, not even in hoxton where all the trendies would get the reference.I know, who wouldn't want to amuse the middle classes
er yes mate, exactly my point. Why do you think so much of banksy's stuff is in that area? To amuse middle class trendies in media and design.
Thats a lot of questions!