AI report on Hamas killing off political opponents

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Gaza War Dead estimates made by Human Rights NGOs and by the the involved combatants:
Human Rights NGOs Combatants
B'Tselem Palestinian Centre for Human Rights I D F Palestinian Min Health
Palestinian TOTAL 1387 1417** 1166 1440
Palestinian combatants 330* 236 709
Palestinian non-combatants 1021* 1181 295
. Women 107 116 49 114
. Minors/Children 320 313 89 431

Israeli TOTAL 13*** 13***
Israeli combatants 10*** 10***
Israeli non-combatants 3 3
. Women 1
. Minors/Children 0

* B'Tselem was unable to classify 36 deaths as combatant or non-combatant; non-combatants includes police officers.

** Those who died due to a lack of access to regular health care because of the blockade of Gaza were not included in these figures.

*** Includes 4 IDF soldiers killed by the IDF in friendly fire incidents

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So you counter a report that was "discredited" by it's alleged biases (though it roundly condemned both sides for crimes against humanity) with a report written by a group that describes itself as thus:

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The Jerusalem Center has developed and implemented an array of cutting-edge programs to present Israel's case to the world

How incredibly unbiased, but then again the boss of the place was the Israeli ambassador to the UN and served as an advisor to Sharon and Netanyahu.

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So you counter a report that was "discredited" by it's alleged biases (though it roundly condemned both sides for crimes against humanity) with a report written by a group that describes itself as thus:
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The Jerusalem Center has developed and implemented an array of cutting-edge programs to present Israel's case to the world

How incredibly unbiased, but then again the boss of the place was the Israeli ambassador to the UN and served as an advisor to Sharon and Netanyahu.

The Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs is a great source on Israel and the Middle East, as well as on Islamo-Fascism. The studies and articles are written by people who get right to the point. I'm not claiming to be unbiased. Didn't I say that I have my biases, just as you people have yours? I admit that I support Israel and that I feel an attachment toward Israel. But the Goldstone report had errors when it came to Israel's conduct. The Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs did a great job in debunking that error that the Goldstone report made.

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Ah but seriously, can a mod ban this clown or something please? He's basically just admitted he has no interest in listening to anything "us people" have to say (if it wasn't blindingly obvious already) because any source thrown at him is inherently anti-Israel and that he's quite happy to offer up sources he knows to be totally unreliable to back up his dreary little nationalist theories in reply. So is there any point whatsoever in allowing him to gum up even this single thread with barking mad troll-stuff?

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Rob Ray wrote:
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you people

laugh out loud

Ah but seriously, can a mod ban this clown or something please? He's basically just admitted he has no interest in listening to anything "us people" have to say (if it wasn't blindingly obvious already) because any source thrown at him is inherently anti-Israel and that he's quite happy to offer up sources he knows to be totally unreliable to back up his dreary little nationalist theories in reply. So is there any point whatsoever in allowing him to gum up even this single thread with barking mad troll-stuff?

You are one of the ones who is intolerant of any different view here. Any view that isn't yours is in your mind "barking mad troll-stuff". You want to have me banned because I come into this forum, express a different view and then when someone verbally attacks me, I respond. It's you who doesn't want debate if you're going to ask a moderator to ban me for expressing a different view [making like Vlad, you'll just say it using a euphemism]. I stated that I have my biases. So do you guys. At least I'm not asking a moderator to ban you guys. You seem mad that I don't blindly believe the distorted Goldstone report and instead respond with another source that corrects an error from the ridiculous Goldstone report. I've been criticized and I respond with my own beliefs. What's so bad about that? How should that make me banned? Or should I be banned because I'm not "convinced" now that I'm wrong and you're right?

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Obvious troll is obvious.

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Oh Benyamin you obviously didn't read my posts properly. I said you should be banned because you have no intention of debating, only of propagandising. If this was a debate I'd be bang alongside keeping you if only as an amusing, slightly backwards pet.