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May 19 2010 00:32

There's a very interesting documentary about the history of containerisation, including stuff about dockers' struggles, the incredible economies of scale involved - eg, the transport costs of shipping something half way round the world are often less than it costs you to get it home from the shop where you bought it.

There's a bit about the Branscombe looting, too. This thread was definitely one of the ICC's finest and most revealing moments.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00scpzn/The_Box_That_Changed_Britain/

It's online until this Sat 22nd.

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May 19 2010 18:48

Thanks for reviving this thread, Ret - it had certainly slipped under my radar. I caught The Wrecking Season last night on BBC4, about beachcombing in Cornwall; no doubt that's up on iplayer. Very interesting...

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May 19 2010 18:58

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has anyone ever seen the excellent Ealing film "Whisky Galore", in which a second world-war cargo ship is beached coming round an outer hebridean island which has just ran out of whisky (rationing and all) leading to general social decomposition, depression etc? As it turns out the ship's full of whisky, so all the locals obviously get set to salvage it - but the (english) head of the home guard takes it upon himself to frustrate their plans in the interest of legality. Leading, of course, to all sorts of comic misadventures & subversion.

properly funny film. eh.

When I was a temp driver's mate on a brewer's dray, the driver told me his grandparents were 'beneficiaries' of that very wreck.

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May 19 2010 19:11
Ret Marut wrote:
There's a very interesting documentary about the history of containerisation, including stuff about dockers' struggles, the incredible economies of scale involved - eg, the transport costs of shipping something half way round the world are often less than it costs you to get it home from the shop where you bought it.

There's a bit about the Branscombe looting, too. This thread was definitely one of the ICC's finest and most revealing moments.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00scpzn/The_Box_That_Changed_Britain/

It's online until this Sat 22nd.

i watched that on the telly when it was on - fantastic programme

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May 19 2010 19:47
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Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only

fucking nation states

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May 19 2010 21:39

i don't pay my license fee so foreigners can come over here and watch our telly

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May 19 2010 22:04
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The Legend of Whisky Galore

The famous tale of how a group of Scottish islanders raided a shipwreck for its consignment of 24,000 cases of whisky has grown into a legend.
But the wreck of the ship that became the inspiration for one of Britain's best-loved films was carrying something far more valuable.
Official files released recently by the Public Records Office show that it was not just spirits that disappeared - but a substantial sum of hard cash.
The SS Politician sank off the Scottish Island of Eriskay in 1941 and eight years later the film Whisky Galore recounted the story of how the locals raced to retrive the ship's liquid cargo, hiding the bottles before the excise men could find them.
But as well as whisky, the Politician was carrying eight cases of currency to the West Indies and the United States.
In all, there were nearly 290,000 ten-shilling notes, which would be worth the equivalent of several million pounds at today's prices.
Although the Crown Agents, who were supplying the notes to the colonial administration in Jamaica, were confident they would not get into circulation, for years they kept turning up at banks around the world.
In April 1941 Captain E. Lauriston, who was in charge of the salvage operation noted that there were reports of banknotes from the wreck turning up on Benbecula.
The Crown Agents were not concerned, noting in a memorandum : "the local police service is in no doubt on a very, very small scale but the nature of the place and its surroundings should tend to reduce the chances of serious loss through the notes being presented and paid."
The following month, however, an empty cash case was found abandoned in the hold of the ship. By June of that year the notes, were turning up in bank branches as far away as Liverpool. By mid July, 168 had been tendered in Jamacia and 141 in Britain.
By 1958, the Crown Agents reported that 211,267 notes had been recovered by the salvage company or Scottish police and had been destroyed.
A further 2,329 had been presented in banks in England, Scotland, Ireland, Switzerland, Malta, Canada, the United States and Jamacia, of which only 1,509 were thought to have been presented in good faith. But that still left 76,404 notes which were never accounted for and whose fate remains unknown. http://www.thewhiskygalore.com/legend.htm

The Scotsman is closer to the ICC line;

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Whisky Galore islanders revealed as far from loveable rogues
...documents released by the National Archives at Kew, depict the "charming" islanders as criminals who bribed police, intimidated officials and petrol-bombed vehicles in the night....
http://news.scotsman.com/topstories/Whisky-Galore-islanders-revealed-as.2613887.jp
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May 19 2010 22:13

The Alcohol Liberation Front - releasing booze from behind bars...
(pisspoor).

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May 19 2010 23:28
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i don't pay my license fee so foreigners can come over here and watch our telly

Who pays licence fees when the internet exists?

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May 20 2010 08:49
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This thread was definitely one of the ICC's finest and most revealing moments.

Definitely their finest hour: "we shall fight the looters on the beaches...we shall never surrender our 'revolutionary' pretensions'.
ICC - Impotent Camouflage for Conservatism.

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May 20 2010 23:35

Just waded through this thread... Says more about the condescending conservative moralism of a certain sect than a thousand threads on Lenin and 1917 ever could. Talk about smoking themselves out... or was that the mackerel? (Sorry, just had to keep that nautical theme).

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Aug 17 2011 04:44

Thought I'd bump this in the light of this quote from miles from the ICC in relation to the ICC's condemnation of looting, so that people can see the context of what the ICC and sympathisers were talking about:

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I referred in my last post to the Branscombe Bay looting and I want to quote demogorgon303 from that thread, as his commment seems very pertinent to the points raised in these last few posts:
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How does picking over wreckage at a beach advance the class consciousness of a fighting working class? The scenes are reminscent of the working class's earliest history: one of vagabondage, brutalisation and moral degradation. We spent several hundred years fighting against the impositions of capitalism that turned the early industrial proletarian areas into sinkholes of crime and misery, with our ancestors fighting like rats in a sewer.
They rose themselves above this by developing the most basic elements of solidarity, by declaring "thieves beware", and organising in their own defence.
The whole reason the bourgeosie is giving this such coverage is because they know exactly that it is this kind of behaviour that undermines class solidarity. It's their opportunity to say "look at the masses in action", "woe to human nature", etc.
This doesn't mean revolutionaries have to simply say the opposite of the bourgeois moralists. Class conscious minorities should be pointing out that this is not the revolutionary activity of a "working class", rather that this degradation is a product of the moral erosion of humanity brought about by the pernicious effects of commodity production and alienation, the system that these moralists defend.
This is not a minor issue. The conduct of the proletariat demonstrates its contradictory position in society: on the one hand, it represents the most concentrated loss of humanity as its early nature demonstrated. On the other, its anger and fury at its fate drives it to reconquer its humanity, expressed in solidarity and class struggle.

http://libcom.org/forums/news/riot-tottenham-london-response-police-killings-06082011?page=10#comment-440184

So beachcombers are like " rats in a sewer" etc. Polite debate with these Insidiously Cretinous Conservatives is pure masochism, an insult to the person wasting their time debating with them.

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Aug 17 2011 05:41

Perhaps the Churchillian "We will fight them on the beaches" sums up the ICC's conservative attitude to this episode?